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hartm (Wed, 08 Feb 2017 00:05:50 GMT):
Will there be an identity WG meeting this week?

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Dan (Wed, 08 Feb 2017 15:47:10 GMT):
I see a note from Vipin on technical discuss. Probably came out after you sent this question. If it hasn't shown up for you tho DM me and I'll fwd.

Dan (Wed, 08 Feb 2017 15:48:16 GMT):
I have a conflict with another meeting, but may be able to attend late.

Dan (Wed, 08 Feb 2017 15:49:37 GMT):
Regarding one of the agenda items we are pretty open for identifiers in sawtooth lake. We had been using bitcoin style addresses. I've recently put up a PR that would just hash a public key to produce a 32 bit ID. But I don't have any real strong feelings there (besides a mild dislike for base58).

nage (Wed, 08 Feb 2017 16:07:33 GMT):
Drummond and I also have a conflict, but Daniel Hardman from Sovrin should be able to join. Here is a reference to the cross-ledger decentralized ID spec that is being discussed with the folks at Sovrin, uPort, Blockstream and Blockstack (and others) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z-9jX4PEWtyRFD5fEyyzEnWK_0ir0no1JJLuRu8O9Gs/edit?usp=sharing

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MicBowman (Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:16:31 GMT):
Extending a little on Dan's comment... STL uses ecdsa keys (encoded like bitcoin addresses) for infrastructure identifiers. However, each transaction family can map those into more expressive/meaningful identifiers... for example, in the endpoint registry, we map the ecdsa identifier into a proof of binding for a separate, enclave-specific private key. the proof is created by the enclave using the Intel Attestation Service. In the marketplace, there is a notion of "participant" which maps the ecdsa identifier into another structure that provides more market-place information about the identity... so... like most things in STL, identities are pluggable

MicBowman (Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:16:31 GMT):
Extending a little on @Dan comment... STL uses ecdsa keys (encoded like bitcoin addresses) for infrastructure identifiers. However, each transaction family can map those into more expressive/meaningful identifiers... for example, in the endpoint registry, we map the ecdsa identifier into a proof of binding for a separate, enclave-specific private key. the proof is created by the enclave using the Intel Attestation Service. In the marketplace, there is a notion of "participant" which maps the ecdsa identifier into another structure that provides more market-place information about the identity... so... like most things in STL, identities are pluggable

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ashutosh_kumar (Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:58:30 GMT):
Did the meeting happen today ?

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VipinB (Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:32:23 GMT):
The meeting happens every two weeks

VipinB (Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:32:23 GMT):
@ashutosh_kumar The meeting happens every two weeks

VipinB (Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:32:31 GMT):
Next one on Feb 22

VipinB (Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:33:28 GMT):
You can contribute through documents or this channel asynchronously

VipinB (Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:35:47 GMT):
Hi @all: Status of Identity WG 02/16/2017, • The Identity WG charter was approved by the TSC • Work has started on the Identity WG document covering the interface • The Architecture WG started addressing the identity of nodes participating in consensus and validation. • As part of this, Binh presented the Fabric membership services to the Architecture WG • Similar presentations or documents are expected from Iroha and Saw Tooth Lake • The Identity WG in collaboration with the Architecture WG will strive to keep the interfaces to other types of Identity(transactors), as well as that of the nodes mentioned above consistent. • Identity, cross chain, legacy and from other trust anchors (public permissionless) started to be addressed by debating pathways to canonical transformations (from DID->DDO as well as X.509/X.500) to DLTs under the Hyperledger Umbrella. • Collaboration has started with SOVRIN to see how they can fit in with the Hyperledger Umbrella as well as how they can contribute to the ongoing work on Identity. Comments/questions welcome. Vipin

VipinB (Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:36:16 GMT):
Links to important docs:

VipinB (Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:36:16 GMT):
Links to important docs:

VipinB (Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:59:18 GMT):
Meeting minutes: Collaborate to put the minutes down. . Charter draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NZIOmxBSKCPkJ2OW9bPdUgH7T4JVSP4zbaumXtsyOpg/edit?usp=drivesdk Ideas from the meetings will be used to flesh out the Identity Whitepaper, a stub form of it can be found here.

VipinB (Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:59:18 GMT):
Meeting minutes: Collaborate to put the minutes down. . Charter draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NZIOmxBSKCPkJ2OW9bPdUgH7T4JVSP4zbaumXtsyOpg/edit?usp=drivesdk Ideas from the meetings will be used to flesh out the Identity Whitepaper, a stub form of it can be found here.

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VipinB (Wed, 22 Feb 2017 02:51:30 GMT):
Hello all, There will be an Identity WG call on 02/22/2017 at 12 noon EST. It will last an hour. Please attend and contribute. Hyperledger Project Identity WG Every 2 weeks on Wednesday, from Wed, Nov 30, 2016 to no end date, 12:00 pm | 1 hr New York (Eastern Standard Time, GMT-05:00) Host: Todd Benzies Join Add the attached iCalendar (.ics) file to your calendar. Access Information Where: WebEx Online Meeting number: 190 609 401 Password: This meeting does not require a password. Audio Connection +1-415-655-0001 US TOLL Access code: 190 609 401 Agenda: Discussion continues on Interoperability formats (DiD->DDO), X.509->X.500 or both, are there any we are missing? What effects will this have on existing implementations? Separation between Ledger Infrastructure Identity & Identity used for Transacting. Continue to discuss the ways SOVRIN can be welcomed into Hyperledger Links: Meeting minutes: Collaborate to put the minutes down. . Charter has been approved by the TSC: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NZIOmxBSKCPkJ2OW9bPdUgH7T4JVSP4zbaumXtsyOpg/edit?usp=drivesdk Ideas from the meetings will be used to flesh out the Identity Whitepaper, a stub form of it can be found here.

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drummondreed (Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:04:40 GMT):
Here is the link to the next Rebooting the Web of Trust event where we will be doing a deep dive into the DID (decentralized identifier) and DDO (DID descriptor object) specifications. https://rwot_paris_april2017.eventbrite.fr/

drummondreed (Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:04:53 GMT):
The event is April 21-23 in Paris.

drummondreed (Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:05:23 GMT):
Also, here's a link to the latest DID specification (note that it is a Google doc so that it can easily accept comments): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z-9jX4PEWtyRFD5fEyyzEnWK_0ir0no1JJLuRu8O9Gs/edit?usp=sharing

WilliamSparks (Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:08:50 GMT):
great, thank you!

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VipinB (Sun, 26 Feb 2017 12:12:26 GMT):
Message from @dselman regarding identity implementation in fabric composer "Composer manages participants and identities. Participants represent the people/orgs that are members of a business network. They are modelled and can be complex data structures, with relationships to other assets or participants. An identity is issued/revoked for a participant, and the identity <--> participant mapping is stored in world state by Composer. A single participant may have multiple identities. An identity is related to a single participant. The identity is stored in an ECert as an encrypted attribute, so that when a transaction is submitted Composer can retrieve the identity and through the identity-participant mapping table retrieve the associated participant. Docs: https://fabric-composer.github.io/tasks/identity-issue.html https://fabric-composer.github.io/tasks/identity-revoke.html . The current participant is the basis for access control: https://fabric-composer.github.io/tasks/current-participant.html Composer also supports declarative access control: https://fabric-composer.github.io/reference/acl_language.html

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dselman (Sun, 26 Feb 2017 15:07:09 GMT):
Thanks @VipinB. Looping in @sstone1 who is the Composer expert in this domain.

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VipinB (Fri, 03 Mar 2017 18:27:39 GMT):
@dselman @sstone1 we will put some references in meeting notes to eventually import parts into identity wg whitepaper

VipinB (Fri, 03 Mar 2017 18:28:21 GMT):
Also next Wednesday we will have a call 12 noon EST

dselman (Fri, 03 Mar 2017 18:29:50 GMT):
Thanks @VipinB, we will try to attend the call on Wed.

sstone1 (Fri, 03 Mar 2017 19:41:34 GMT):
Thanks @VipinB, added to calendar ;)

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VipinB (Tue, 07 Mar 2017 22:23:15 GMT):
There will be an Identity WG call tomorrow March 8 12 noon EST for details check wiki.hyperledger.org

VipinB (Wed, 08 Mar 2017 16:06:14 GMT):
Proposed Agenda: Identity WG Paper- skeleton, sections Fabric Composer - an Identity view Continue discussion of Sovrin on-boarding Other interesting groups working on Identity Invitation to experts to discuss privacy & Identity Any other topic related to Identity Please look at wiki.hyperledger.org and go to the Identity wg for all the relevant links. Please join the call at noon (EST)- call details in wiki.

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drummondreed (Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:08:03 GMT):
Could you post a link to the Meeting Notes page for this call?

SeanBohan_Evernym (Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:10:11 GMT):
https://docs.google.com/document/u/2/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit?usp=sharing

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VipinB (Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:55:54 GMT):
Next meeting March 22nd. Work before the meeting -Flesh out the paper further. @SStone1 any diagrams dealing with identity would be helpful here -Add references to existing DLT Identity systems

VipinB (Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:56:12 GMT):
I have made the document editable by anyone with link

VipinB (Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:56:54 GMT):
The link is given above from @SeanBohan_Evernym (even tho it says meeting notes), it is the link to the paper

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sstone1 (Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:50:11 GMT):
@VipinB I'm afraid that both me (vacation) and Dan (InterConnect) are unavailable next meeting. I'll try and get an update in to give you something to mull over in the mean time though.

VipinB (Fri, 17 Mar 2017 18:48:20 GMT):
@sstone1 NP, we do have lives outside the BC don't we? As long as I have something to start us off with.

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VipinB (Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:16:56 GMT):
@here Meeting today at 12 Noon EDT The Identity WG meets biweekly on Wednesdays noon EST / 17:00 UTC. (Next meeting: March 8th, alternates with Architecture WG meetings) Join the webex here: https://meetings.webex.com/collabs/meetings/join?uuid=M13E85PQ13KWSMVJJLZ1FZ3XNX-9VIB Or join by phone: ◾ +1-408-525-6800 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) ◾ +1-866-432-9903 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada) ◾ Access code: 190 609 401

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VipinB (Fri, 24 Mar 2017 20:56:01 GMT):
From nage: We received approval from the Sovrin Trustees and Technical Governance Board to submit the Sovrin code base as Hyperledger Indy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YzXz0aM8w7kSp3_ao3ue9tOFwK9paofXbtBptR1Jucg/edit?usp=sharing Please take a look.

VipinB (Fri, 24 Mar 2017 20:57:18 GMT):
Reposting @here From @nage: We received approval from the Sovrin Trustees and Technical Governance Board to submit the Sovrin code base as Hyperledger Indy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YzXz0aM8w7kSp3_ao3ue9tOFwK9paofXbtBptR1Jucg/edit?usp=sharing Please take a look.

drummondreed (Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:05:01 GMT):
Thanks for reposting, Vipin. We'd love to get feedback. Also, for anyone who is interested, the Sovrin Foundation Board of Trustees also just approved the Sovrin Provisional Trust Framework. It has 12 pages of definitions describing the Sovrin identity model. See this announcement on the Sovrin Forum: http://forum.sovrin.org/t/sovrin-provisional-trust-framework-approved-22-march-2017/221

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VipinB (Fri, 31 Mar 2017 18:33:57 GMT):
@here Welcome Indy to the hyperledger family.

karkal (Fri, 31 Mar 2017 18:36:53 GMT):
Excited. Great addition to hyperledger family.

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VipinB (Wed, 05 Apr 2017 14:03:17 GMT):
@here call today at 12 EDT. Details in wiki link https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg.

VipinB (Wed, 05 Apr 2017 14:03:30 GMT):
Agenda:

VipinB (Wed, 05 Apr 2017 14:17:49 GMT):
1.Standards: Normative/Prescriptive vs Descriptive where do you draw the line? How does this relate to the Identity WG 2.Work on the Interface/Whitepaper Document for Identity- how to proceed? There have been suggestions made: start with Interfaces/Capabilities from Indy/Fabric/STL/Iroha- we need volunteers 3.How to Interoperate? Is this important in the first place? 4.Splitting the Identity space framework vs. Transactors

drummondreed (Wed, 05 Apr 2017 15:05:20 GMT):
Vipin, on #2, I'd be happy to do a short introduction to the DID-based identity model used by Sovrin and Indy as documented in section 3 of the Sovrin Provisional Trust Framework: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18V1c0rOQYxNMleuV_2z7yQny0KdBnuDkWlN8DNUrioM/edit?usp=sharing

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VipinB (Wed, 05 Apr 2017 15:44:05 GMT):
@drummondreed as you saw in the doc I have added an item at the top of the Agenda for this.

drummondreed (Wed, 05 Apr 2017 15:44:25 GMT):
Excellent, Vipin, I'll be ready for it.

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JoVercammen (Fri, 14 Apr 2017 04:54:00 GMT):
Hi, everybody. I like to introduce ourselves. We're Belgian based company, that works on identity. In our current stack we use hyperledger fabric. At this moment we did some POC on this platform. Now we're reaching the point to get funded and to start building our mvp. I followed the identity-WG some time. by reading the communication and passing documents. Now that their is a go, We want to more involved into the working group. Also with the formal contribution of sovrin platform.

Liqui (Mon, 17 Apr 2017 03:12:52 GMT):
@JoVercammen whats the name of your company?

JoVercammen (Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:17:10 GMT):
Hi Liqui, the name is Juru - You are You http://juru.io

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nage (Mon, 17 Apr 2017 15:21:44 GMT):
Welcome @JoVercammen!

Sean_Bohan (Mon, 17 Apr 2017 17:43:54 GMT):
welcome aboard @JoVercammen

VipinB (Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:31:52 GMT):
@JoVercammen great to see you here-We will have a meeting tomorrow as usual. I will post details here today.

JoVercammen (Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:27:06 GMT):
@VipinB Thanks! I'm eager to see tomorrow's agenda

VipinB (Tue, 18 Apr 2017 22:22:24 GMT):
@here Identity WG Call April 19, 2016 at 12 EDT. Details in wiki link https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg. Proposed Agenda: Welcome new comers into the group and get reasons for participation. Work on short term goals, identify volunteers for the following items in the paper and a timeline (we will aim for a draft of some of these items by Monday the 24th to continue work at the hackfest) a. Current Interfaces: Description of Indy, Fabric, Iroha, Monax, STL. b. Extract the common elements from these interfaces to describe an “ideal” Identity Interface c. Read the Requirements WG paper and map to Identity requirements d. Description of CA vs DiD- i.e. Central Authority vs Distributed Identity and their interoperation and how Identity component will operate in the context of Legacy systems and heterogeneous DLTs. e. Read and get data from Architecture Working Group on Identity to incorporate or link to in our paper Tentative Volunteers from what I remember are: Jan Kamenisch, Nathan George, Drummond Reed, Sean Bohan, Daniela Merella If there are any I am forgetting, please speak up if you are on the call. I will cross post this on tsc chat and architecture wg chat as well as the technical-discuss and tsc mailing lists.

drummondreed (Wed, 19 Apr 2017 04:29:13 GMT):
Vipin, I'm in Paris for Rebooting the Web of Trust #4 this week, but the day should be wrapped by the time of the call so I'm still planning on attending. Also, Nathan and Sean and I will all be attending the Hackfest in DC next week with a specific goal of working on the Identity Architecture paper that the Architecture WG wants do to (I wasn't on their call but Nathan was). One thing that might be good on today's agenda is to learn more about what the goals of that paper are and how it will related to the Identity WG white paper.

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stevensprague (Fri, 21 Apr 2017 23:27:16 GMT):
I joined the call this week and will be at the Hackfest in DC next week in the morning on Monday and the day on Tuesday. I look forward to getting more involved with the project and hope that we can incorporate some of the concepts of cyber security into the advanced capabilities of blockchain based attributes. The global installed base of trusted computing is where the keys can be made safe for a blockchain based attribute store and assure the quality of registered devices and the users they represent. Some of the hard problems like interpreted attributes with privacy can finally be addressed with the addition of strong device identity and verification of capabilities using attestation. I look forward to meeting folks and discussing how we can contribute to the process.

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VipinB (Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:36:43 GMT):
1. Enterprise-managed Identity vs Self Sovereignity TEEs (HSM etc) and Identity - Each incubated solution will contribute their writeup on Identity viz. Indy: Evernym guys, STL: Maintainers (have a writeup on End Point Registry), Fabric - CA have a link, plus there is a deep dive session duringthe hackfest; Iroha, I have a link from Makoto; Monax Burrow, you could help with this part or if you can point me to any document that you have. General survey of other publicly known solutions (Corda, Ethereum, Ripple, etc.) Interoperability of Identity - we do not have a volunteer for this yet.

VipinB (Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:39:23 GMT):
WOrk Stream:1. Bridge to Identity in the Architecture WG 2. Enterprise-managed Identity vs Self Sovereignity 3. TEEs (HSM etc) and Identity - 4. Each incubated solution will contribute their writeup on Identity viz. Indy: Evernym guys, STL: Maintainers (have a writeup on End Point Registry), Fabric - CA have a link, plus there is a deep dive session duringthe hackfest; Iroha, I have a link from Makoto; Monax Burrow, you could help with this part or if you can point me to any document that you have. 5. General survey of other publicly known solutions (Corda, Ethereum, Ripple, etc.) 6.Interoperability of Identity - we do not have a volunteer for this yet.

Dan (Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:35:31 GMT):
I'm enjoying the identity meeting at the DC hackfest

Dan (Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:38:21 GMT):

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Dan (Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:42:30 GMT):
per @dhuseby observations on linkability during @drummondreed and Mason discussing Sovrin... The EPID protocol provides mechanisms for unlinkable quotes. It doesn't address if you need to establish a permanent identity with a single organization that requests identifiable attributes (e.g. your age + address + etc), but it does resist multiple organizations colluding to link separately shared attributes e.g (age) + (address) + (etc) and correlate an identity. https://eprint.iacr.org/2009/095.pdf

Dan (Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:42:30 GMT):
per @dhuseby observations on linkability during @drummondreed and Nathan discussing Sovrin... The EPID protocol provides mechanisms for unlinkable quotes. It doesn't address if you need to establish a permanent identity with a single organization that requests identifiable attributes (e.g. your age + address + etc), but it does resist multiple organizations colluding to link separately shared attributes e.g (age) + (address) + (etc) and correlate an identity. https://eprint.iacr.org/2009/095.pdf

Dan (Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:42:30 GMT):
per @dhuseby observations on linkability during @drummondreed and Mason discussing Sovrin... The EPID protocol provides mechanisms for unlinkable quotes. It doesn't address if you need to establish a permanent identity with a single organization that requests identifiable attributes (e.g. your age, address, etc), but it does resist multiple organizations colluding to link separately shared attributes and correlate an identity. https://eprint.iacr.org/2009/095.pdf

dhuseby (Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:44:32 GMT):
how does it resist collusion?

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drummondreed (Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:14:02 GMT):
@dan Thanks - I will check into EPID

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Dan (Tue, 25 Apr 2017 00:57:40 GMT):
@dhuseby the protocol uses a random blinding term on each interaction. That term can be consistent for a single organization if you need a persistent identifier there, but still be different for other organizations in a cryptographically unlinkable way.

Dan (Tue, 25 Apr 2017 00:58:23 GMT):
Now as you observed in our side bar if other components of your system are bleeding identity information like your IP address etc. ... well that's outside what the protocol can control.

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nage (Tue, 25 Apr 2017 13:09:42 GMT):
If you're interested in more discussion around Verifiable Claims and Indy's anoncreds, the W3C meeting was canceled, and I'd be happy to use the time slot to introduce folks to the efforts going on around privacy preservation for verifiable claims.

nage (Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:54:07 GMT):
The relevant links from the discussion https://opencreds.github.io/vc-data-model/

nage (Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:54:18 GMT):
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VipinB (Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:19:40 GMT):
@rjagadee and I were discussing turning next weeks Identity WG meeting into a combined session with Architecture WG, since both groups are discussing Identity at the moment. More details later. Any comments.

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drummondreed (Sat, 29 Apr 2017 18:57:38 GMT):
Vipin, I like that idea. This coming week is Internet Identity Workshop in Mountain View, where Sean, Nathan, and I (and perhaps a number of members of the Identity WG will be. So we can try to set up a session where we can all call in from there.

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VipinB (Wed, 03 May 2017 14:03:26 GMT):
@here Identity WG call today at 12 EDT. Details in wiki link https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg. Paper link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit?usp=sharing Agenda: Call for volunteers Splitting up workload and discuss timelines: a.Bridge to architecture WG paper – Nathan George (since he had already started on this) b.TEEs & HSMs – Steven from Rivetz c.Jan Camenisch (already provided some feedback)- ZK proofs and CL signatures- maybe something more concrete d. Benjamin Bollen – Monax-Identity e. Leonard Edwin maybe Iroha-Link is f. Daniela Merella - She can look at the paper and contribute g. Fabric CA team to provide some input on Fabric CA h. STL EPR – (End Point Registry) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gWlbsKtgApOTm1E5XJsw2J3U6AvIRxujWiG-vm6ELOM/edit?usp=sharing EPID as identity repository. i. Sovrin-Identity Model- Drummond j. DiD->DDO model-Drummond k. X.509 (Version 3.0), X.525 ****-need volunteer l. Verifiable claims - Nathan/Sean/Drummond m. Sketch out Identity Interface- Vipin We have to recognize the fact that this conference season and people are very busy. In fact this can be a good thing, since the latest ideas garnered at conferences can be incorporated into our paper.

Sean_Bohan (Wed, 03 May 2017 14:36:28 GMT):
ID WG: a number of us are at IIW this week and will be missing the call today

Sean_Bohan (Wed, 03 May 2017 14:39:46 GMT):
except me, I will definitely be there :)

drummondreed (Wed, 03 May 2017 14:56:33 GMT):
Vipin: As Sean mentions, today is the second day of Internet Identity Workshop in Mountain View, and the interest about DIDs, DDOs, and DKMS (Decentralized Key Management System) is INTENSE. We (the Sovrin and uPort) identity teams have been asked to give sessions about them today and tomorrow, and in order to schedule those, we have to attend the opening circle which begins at—you guessed it—9AM PT.

drummondreed (Wed, 03 May 2017 14:58:38 GMT):
I'm really torn because I'd like to be there for the call—our agenda here at IIW is almost a complete overlap with what you'd like to cover this morning. Arrgghhhhh!!!!!

VipinB (Wed, 03 May 2017 15:39:07 GMT):
No problem, we were only going to talk about the assignments, you could contribute your input on DDO DiD to the paper since you are so well prepared

berserkr (Wed, 03 May 2017 16:35:20 GMT):
will there be any recordings/decks from the event?

berserkr (Wed, 03 May 2017 16:35:56 GMT):
will start contributing some of our assets as well, but need to catch up with what is out there :D

JoVercammen (Wed, 03 May 2017 17:07:04 GMT):
Hi due traffic and a late meeting. I missed the meeting. Still va

JoVercammen (Wed, 03 May 2017 17:07:46 GMT):
Available to help on the contribution

JonathanLevi (Thu, 04 May 2017 11:19:19 GMT):
@drummondreed, were these recorded? [ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=piF2Z4funADKZFTfL)

JonathanLevi (Thu, 04 May 2017 11:19:54 GMT):
Funny how I am/have been able to attend the Rebooting Web of Trust sessions in NYC more than the ones in sunny CA ;-)

VipinB (Fri, 05 May 2017 15:29:12 GMT):
@berserkr all recordings are reachable through I'd WG

VipinB (Fri, 05 May 2017 15:29:12 GMT):
@berserkr all recordings are reachable through wiki for ID WG

VipinB (Fri, 05 May 2017 15:29:43 GMT):
I mean wiki for the ID WG

VipinB (Fri, 05 May 2017 15:31:45 GMT):
https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg

VipinB (Fri, 05 May 2017 15:32:21 GMT):
Normally available shortly after the meeting

drummondreed (Sat, 06 May 2017 03:20:26 GMT):
@JonathanLevi No, unfortunately we're not really set up to record full sessions at IIW (occasionally we plan ahead and do it for certain special sessions). BUT there are notes taken and posted for as close to 100% of the sessions as possible (the community is pretty religious about that). As they come in, all the notes will be visible at http://iiw.idcommons.net/IIW_24_Session_Notes. Just look for the sessions on DIDs and DKMS on Wednesday May 3.

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berserkr (Mon, 08 May 2017 17:10:25 GMT):
@VipinB thank you!

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VipinB (Tue, 09 May 2017 20:59:37 GMT):
@JoVercammen thanks for your offer on May 3rd, we missed you - what section do you think you can contribute to? I will put a reference to Juru in our doc

VipinB (Tue, 09 May 2017 21:00:20 GMT):
@JonathanLevi has taken x.509 x.525 in addition to the names that I had in my original post

VipinB (Tue, 09 May 2017 21:04:09 GMT):
To recap: a.Bridge to architecture WG paper – @nage (since he had already started on this) b.TEEs & HSMs – Steven from Rivetz c.Jan Camenisch (already provided some feedback)- ZK proofs and CL signatures- maybe something more concrete d. Benjamin Bollen – Monax-Identity e. Leonard Edwin maybe Iroha- f. Daniela Merella - She can look at the paper and contribute g. Fabric CA team to provide some input on Fabric CA h. STL EPR – (End Point Registry) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gWlbsKtgApOTm1E5XJsw2J3U6AvIRxujWiG-vm6ELOM/edit?usp=sharing EPID as identity repository.-@VipinB i. Sovrin-Identity Model- @drummondreed others j. DiD->DDO model-@drummondreed k. X.509 (Version 3.0), X.525 @JonathanLevi l. Verifiable claims - @nage, @Sean_Bohan, @drummondreed m. Sketch out Identity Interface- @VipinB

VipinB (Tue, 09 May 2017 21:04:09 GMT):
a.Bridge to architecture WG paper – @nage (since he had already started on this) b.TEEs & HSMs – Steven from Rivetz c.Jan Camenisch (already provided some feedback)- ZK proofs and CL signatures- maybe something more concrete d. Benjamin Bollen – Monax-Identity e. Leonard Edwin maybe Iroha- f. Daniela Merella - She can look at the paper and contribute g. Fabric CA team to provide some input on Fabric CA h. STL EPR – (End Point Registry) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gWlbsKtgApOTm1E5XJsw2J3U6AvIRxujWiG-vm6ELOM/edit?usp=sharing EPID as identity repository.-@VipinB i. Sovrin-Identity Model- @drummondreed others j. DiD->DDO model-@drummondreed k. X.509 (Version 3.0), X.525 @JonathanLevi l. Verifiable claims - @nage, @Sean_Bohan, @drummondreed m. Sketch out Identity Interface- @VipinB

drummondreed (Tue, 09 May 2017 21:09:02 GMT):
Vipin, I have those sections on my list. I'm at European Identity Conference in Munich this week, but I fly back to the States on Saturday and plan to work on those sections this weekend and have a draft ready by next Monday (before One World Identity K(NO)W Identity Conference starts in DC).

berserkr (Tue, 09 May 2017 22:46:41 GMT):
is there work on how to add biometrics onto the general id effort?

berserkr (Tue, 09 May 2017 22:46:54 GMT):
we have a few things we are working on that could be leveraged

VipinB (Wed, 10 May 2017 13:37:33 GMT):
@berserkr glad to hear, we can work this into the list. However, there is a lot of feeling against this as this is a "nuclear option"; it might be that we may have to depend on self-sovereign disclosure of such schemes through attestations available through public Identity utilities such as Sovrin. We have a big tent and can benefit from your views on how such schemes can be implemented safely. Thanks

VipinB (Wed, 10 May 2017 13:39:23 GMT):
@drummondreed looks like you are a true road(air) warrior. Hopefully your biological clock adjusts fast. Eager to see sections, let us start and share even rough drafts.

VipinB (Wed, 10 May 2017 13:39:56 GMT):
Will try to be on architecture WG call today.

drummondreed (Wed, 10 May 2017 21:56:41 GMT):
@VipinB I'm trying to cover the ground at what amounts to seven identity conferences in a row (not counting Cloud Identity Summit in late June). It is what it is—the word of Sovrin must be spread across the land ;-)

drummondreed (Wed, 10 May 2017 21:57:39 GMT):
I am happy to share drafts as fast as I can get them written, but given the level of interest in blockchain identity in general and Sovrin in particular here at EIC, it's near certain I won't get to do much more drafting until my flight to DC on Saturday.

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VipinB (Thu, 11 May 2017 15:12:01 GMT):
@drummondreed happy to see that Sovrin has such an evangelist. I have some more interested parties contacting me to contribute. we can collaborate on having them do some of the drafting and you to oversee the correctness, the language and quality of the output for some of the topics you picked. How does that sound?

VipinB (Fri, 12 May 2017 13:04:58 GMT):
@here , Since our collaboration and hence interaction has increased with work on the Identity WG Paper and other work products, we have established a mailing list for Identity WG (Thank you Tracy) which is open to all. Please subscribe. We aim to avoid cross-posting to other mailing lists for continued work on Identity WG related matters. Meeting announcements and other general announcements will continue to be relayed though cross posts as we need to get the word out to as many interested people as possible. Thanks, Vipin The new mailing list is at https://lists.hyperledger.org/mailman/listinfo/hyperledger-identity-wg it is open for subscription.

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VipinB (Wed, 17 May 2017 14:06:17 GMT):
@here Identity WG call today May 17rd at 12 EDT. Details in wiki link https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg. Paper link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit?usp=sharing Agenda: Added updates in bold Call for volunteers a. Bridge to architecture WG paper ? Nathan George (since he had already started on this) b. TEEs & HSMs ? Steven from Rivetz c. ZK proofs and CLsignatures- Jan Camenisch (already provided some feedback)-maybe something more concrete d. Monax-Identity Benjamin Bollen e. Iroha-Link f. Fabric CA team to provide some input on Fabric CA g. STL EPR ? (End Point Registry) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gWlbsKtgApOTm1E5XJsw2J3U6AvIRxujWiG-vm6ELOM/edit?usp=sharing EPID as identity repository. Vipin Bharathan has added some material from the introduction of the EPR into the paper. h. Sovrin-Identity Model- Drummond i. DiD->DDO model-Drummond j. X.509 (Version 3.0), X.525 Jonathan Levi k. Verifiable claims - Nathan/Sean/Drummond l. Sketch out Identity Interface- Vipin Bharathan Unassigned : Jan VerCammen, Daniela Merella, Hugo Toledo We have to recognize the fact that this is conference season and people are very busy. In fact this can be a good thing, since the latest ideas garnered at conferences can be incorporated into our paper. Regards, Vipin

VipinB (Wed, 17 May 2017 14:06:17 GMT):
@here Details in wiki link https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg. Paper link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit?usp=sharing Volunteer list a. Bridge to architecture WG paper ? Nathan George (since he had already started on this) b. TEEs & HSMs Steven from Rivetz. Biometrics @berserkr c. ZK proofs and CLsignatures- Jan Camenisch (already provided some feedback) More from Paxos (Raj Nair) on Ring Signatures d. Monax-Identity Benjamin Bollen e. Iroha-Link f. Fabric CA team to provide some input on Fabric CA g. STL EPR ? (End Point Registry) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gWlbsKtgApOTm1E5XJsw2J3U6AvIRxujWiG-vm6ELOM/edit?usp=sharing EPID as identity repository. Vipin Bharathan has added some material from the introduction of the EPR into the paper. h. Sovrin-Identity Model- Drummond- has made some changes in the doc. i. DiD->DDO model-Drummond j. X.509 (Version 3.0), X.525 Jonathan Levi k. Verifiable claims - Nathan/Sean/Drummond l. Sketch out Identity Interface- Vipin Bharathan Unassigned : Jan VerCammen, Daniela Merella, Hugo Toledo

Dan (Wed, 17 May 2017 15:43:19 GMT):
hi @VipinB of that list of volunteers which is the topic for today?

drummondreed (Wed, 17 May 2017 16:24:32 GMT):
My understanding is that this is the list of contributors to the Identity WG white paper

berserkr (Wed, 17 May 2017 16:44:02 GMT):
@VipinB I can start looking at biometrics use in the blockchain, how it is being used, still need to understand it from a DID-like concept but could contribute there, lmk if that would be a good section to add

drummondreed (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:00:15 GMT):
That would be fantastic. Biometrics and DIDs are going to be a very hot topic.

VipinB (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:10:55 GMT):
@Dan we usually range over the topics in the call.

VipinB (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:11:29 GMT):
It ran from TEEs to SPKI

VipinB (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:12:34 GMT):
But I did get some firm commitments from volunteers to work on their sections. Sanjay Bakshi from Intel was on the call and offered to help with STL EPR as well as TEEs

VipinB (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:15:03 GMT):
@berserkr We could open up a section on biometrics, since that is another hot topic, seems like we have views on both extremities of the spectrum re:biometrics

berserkr (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:15:05 GMT):
@drummondreed agreed :)

berserkr (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:15:22 GMT):
yes agreed

berserkr (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:15:31 GMT):
there are camps that say no biometrics on bc

berserkr (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:15:34 GMT):
some say yes

berserkr (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:15:39 GMT):
there are many ways of doing it

berserkr (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:15:46 GMT):
for instance, the way hyper does it

berserkr (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:15:49 GMT):
through the use of tokens

berserkr (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:15:52 GMT):
hypr I mean

berserkr (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:16:08 GMT):
sign me up for that, I can contribute

VipinB (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:16:33 GMT):
If you write up a short section and send it to the list we can iterate and include in paper

berserkr (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:16:53 GMT):
alright, what is the timeline so I can arrange my time

VipinB (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:17:43 GMT):
You do not have to write the most comprehensive thing; iteration usually solves most of the problems; it is up to you to propose a timeline...since this is a purely volunteer effort

berserkr (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:18:00 GMT):
alright, sounds good

VipinB (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:18:31 GMT):
Make it as short a timeline as you can for the first output of about 200-400 words

berserkr (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:18:45 GMT):
yeah, should send it by Friday

VipinB (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:18:50 GMT):
Great

VipinB (Wed, 17 May 2017 17:19:31 GMT):
I heard that some folks would have some sections in by Consensus time; of course it will need iteration and polishing up

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berserkr (Fri, 19 May 2017 21:23:38 GMT):
@VipinB for the documents, where do you guys put them? is it just a google docs link?

berserkr (Fri, 19 May 2017 21:23:53 GMT):
I want to push whatever I have wrt biometrics there

tkuhrt (Sat, 20 May 2017 00:32:54 GMT):
@berserkr : the draft paper is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit?usp=sharing

berserkr (Mon, 22 May 2017 04:03:11 GMT):
@tkuhrt thank you, I will take a look. Just don't want to modify the paper w/o permission :D

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VipinB (Tue, 30 May 2017 21:25:31 GMT):
@here The Identity WG meets biweekly on Wednesdays noon EST-EDT. (Next meeting: May 30 th, 2017 alternates with Architecture WG meetings) Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international Read the Identity WG meeting minutes, join the RocketChat #identity-wg channel. Meeting Contact: Vipin Bharathan, BNP Paribas vipinsun@gmail.com

VipinB (Tue, 30 May 2017 21:25:31 GMT):
@here The Identity WG meets biweekly on Wednesdays noon EST-EDT. (Next meeting: May 31st, 2017 alternates with Architecture WG meetings) Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international Read the Identity WG meeting minutes, join the RocketChat #identity-wg channel. Meeting Contact: Vipin Bharathan, BNP Paribas vipinsun@gmail.com

VipinB (Tue, 30 May 2017 21:29:49 GMT):
@here Agenda for tomorrow's meeting @JonathanLevi will present his winning entry in Consensus 2017 Ethereum hackfest which pivots on Identity to reveal, hide and mask results with proof on multiple blockchains. This is state of the art. This uses Identity to great effect. Also we continue the discussion on the work for the Identity WG paper.

drummondreed (Wed, 31 May 2017 06:45:02 GMT):
Vipin, excellent, I'm really looking forward to Jonathan's presentation—I got a preview at Consensus and it's really cool.

drummondreed (Wed, 31 May 2017 06:47:34 GMT):
Also, I finally added some of the DID/DDO content I've been promising to the white paper. I didn't know where to put it so I added it at the end (after the contributions from Jan Camenisch and Steven Sprague). The link to the section I added is https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit#heading=h.uqg8acshhteb

drummondreed (Wed, 31 May 2017 06:47:38 GMT):
If we have time on the call tomorrow we can discuss how to proceed with overall organization of the white paper.

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hugotoledo (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:01:37 GMT):
White paper working group meeting?

hugotoledo (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:01:53 GMT):
Is this for the Identity WG?

hugotoledo (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:02:25 GMT):
Alas, I have to run. I'll check back later. Thanks!

VipinB (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:11:19 GMT):
@hugotoledo not for Identity WG but we have a separate Whitepaper WG

VipinB (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:11:39 GMT):
They also have a separate channel

VipinB (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:19:08 GMT):
@JonathanLevi let me express my thanks for bringing forward a few key points during your presentation 1. How you were able to hook together Private/Public Hyperledger/EEA/Ethereum public etc. on Azure modifying a few of the publicly available samples/interfaces and use cases 2. The imperative for us all to collaborate and interoperate 3. We hope to absorb some of this spirit into our whitepaper and our implementation 4. We can help you with your blog and approach it with a workflow perspective instead of us being absorbed in the differences in the Blockchain implementations both within hyperledger and outside.

VipinB (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:19:08 GMT):
@JonathanLevi let me express my thanks for bringing forward a few key points during your presentation 1. How you were able to hook together Private/Public Hyperledger/EEA Quorum/Ethereum/Indy/Sovrin etc. on Azure modifying a few of the publicly available samples/interfaces and use cases in an interesting way 2. The imperative for us all to collaborate and interoperate 3. We hope to absorb some of this spirit into our whitepaper and our implementation 4. We can help you with your blog and approach our own White/Yellow paper like you did with a workflow perspective instead of us being absorbed in the differences in the Blockchain implementations both within hyperledger and outside.

JonathanLevi (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:23:14 GMT):
@VipinB Thank you vm for all the kind words and support. Hopefully I didn't speak too fast this time round.

JonathanLevi (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:23:29 GMT):
Yes, I may take you guys up on item 4. It would be very helpful indeed, if you guys can spend some cycles and helping me write this up. I have all the code, etc... I, too, believe that it will be useful !

JonathanLevi (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:23:29 GMT):
Yes, I may take you guys up on item 4. It would be very helpful indeed, if you guys can spend some cycles to help me write this up. I have all the code, etc... I, too, believe that it will be useful !

VipinB (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:24:15 GMT):
@JonathanLevi do you have a rough draft that you would like me/@DrummondReed to start working on

JonathanLevi (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:24:26 GMT):
I can put together a baseline/draft.... detailing the workflow in details, etc.

JonathanLevi (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:24:46 GMT):
Give me a day. I will do it after work, today ;-)

VipinB (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:24:55 GMT):
OK sounds good.

JonathanLevi (Wed, 31 May 2017 17:25:05 GMT):
Thanks.

tkuhrt (Wed, 31 May 2017 18:09:13 GMT):
Recording and slide added to the wiki (https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg/recordings)

VipinB (Wed, 31 May 2017 18:57:24 GMT):
@tkuhrt Thanks !

VipinB (Thu, 01 Jun 2017 11:11:50 GMT):
Special shout out to @Sean_Bohan for keeping the minutes of the meeting updated properly. @here please update meeting minutes with your names and any other data that you might have

VipinB (Thu, 01 Jun 2017 11:12:57 GMT):
Minutes to be found at this link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit?usp=sharing

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JonathanLevi (Fri, 02 Jun 2017 23:54:13 GMT):
@Sean_Bohan - thanks a lot!

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@Sean_Bohan He rocks

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cliveb (Thu, 08 Jun 2017 18:35:58 GMT):
Question from ReqWG: There are several use cases (being drafted), in which the mandate for the smart contract of one identity needs to be changed after-the-fact, even if the smart contract itself does not need to be executed (debtors, dementia, death, probate). Is the identity-wg already covering these use cases?

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cliveb (Fri, 09 Jun 2017 18:19:11 GMT):
@drummondreed Is this identity use case in your sweet spot. ReqWG is meeting next Monday 6/12 at 10am pst to discuss.... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1psJc9UWuteSzOqIG0VLIdzdlxFb9kq-Csw-dxcjPzEo/edit

drummondreed (Fri, 09 Jun 2017 18:19:48 GMT):
Let me check my calendar - one minute.

drummondreed (Sun, 11 Jun 2017 23:06:57 GMT):
@cliveb Sorry I dropped the ball on getting back to you. Yes, the use case is in the DID sweet spot, and yes, 10AM PT happens to be the ONE slot I have available on Monday. I will plan to be on the call.

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VipinB (Mon, 12 Jun 2017 14:13:39 GMT):
@here Maybe we should setup a debate about biometrics. There are some people who are completely opposed to biometric collection and use on principle and also because they fear the data can be compromised or stolen, since there is no revocation of biometric data, this can be a problem... Also are there spoofing methods (like using a plastic or rubber molded finger to attack finger printing systems) or attacking the biometric interface with data stolen from other networks (like iris data ) and use that to impersonate the user. Are there methods to secure the hardware and ensure that the biometric reading is coming from an authentic device?... may interesting avenues.

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drummondreed (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 06:03:31 GMT):
@VipinB I have to send apologies in advance but I have an all-day meeting on our DHS DKMS (Decentralized Key Management System) project with BYU Internet Security Research Labs tomorrow, so I won't be able to attend the ID WG call. But I will on the call in two week, and will be happy to give an update on the DID spec. Also, I did put a writeup on DID/DDO architecture at the end of the draft Identity WG white paper document.

VipinB (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 13:31:05 GMT):
@drummondreed Thanks, I did notice that you had been making changes. The last couple of weeks have been very busy so I have not devoted much time on this topic.

VipinB (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 13:36:27 GMT):
@cliveb I will add this requirement in the Identity doc. Would you like to take part in the call today?

VipinB (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 13:37:41 GMT):
@here The Identity WG meets biweekly on Wednesdays noon EST-EDT. (Next meeting: June 14th, 2017 alternates with Architecture WG meetings) Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international Read the Identity WG meeting minutes, join the RocketChat #identity-wg channel. Meeting Contact: Vipin Bharathan, BNP Paribas vipinsun@gmail.com

VipinB (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 13:37:41 GMT):
@here The Identity WG meets biweekly on Wednesdays noon EST-EDT. (Next meeting: June 14th, 2017 alternates with Architecture WG meetings) Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international Read the Identity WG meeting minutes, join the RocketChat #identity-wg channel. Meeting Contact: Vipin Bharathan, BNP Paribas vipinsun@gmail.com Agenda: Debate on topics to be included in the Document and continue working on the doc. We had a bunch of volunteers- we will hear back from them re: progress

VipinB (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 13:37:41 GMT):
@here Volunteers a. Bridge to architecture WG paper ? Nathan George (since he had already started on this) b. TEEs & HSMs Steven from Rivetz c. ZK proofs and CLsignatures- Jan Camenisch (already provided some feedback)-maybe something more concrete d. Monax-Identity Benjamin Bollen e. Iroha-Link f. Fabric CA team to provide some input on Fabric CA g. STL EPR ? (End Point Registry) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gWlbsKtgApOTm1E5XJsw2J3U6AvIRxujWiG-vm6ELOM/edit?usp=sharing EPID as identity repository. Vipin Bharathan has added some material from the introduction of the EPR into the paper. h. Sovrin-Identity Model- Drummond i. DiD->DDO model-Drummond j. X.509 (Version 3.0), X.525 Jonathan Levi k. Verifiable claims - Nathan/Sean/Drummond l. Sketch out Identity Interface- Vipin Bharathan Unassigned : Jan VerCammen, Daniela Merella, Hugo Toledo

JoVercammen (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 14:33:39 GMT):
@VipinB I have to apologies for missing the meeting at 18h. I'm at moment in a meeting and it doesn't look that I be able to join. I'll be joining for the next WP-Meeting. If there is any missing hands for the paper. You're welcome to send me a private notice. (by Friday) regards, Jo

VipinB (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 15:13:30 GMT):
Call for volunteers a. Bridge to architecture WG paper ? Nathan George (since he had already started on this) b. TEEs & HSMs ? Steven from Rivetz c. ZK proofs and CLsignatures- Jan Camenisch (already provided some feedback)-maybe something more concrete d. Monax-Identity Benjamin Bollen e. Iroha-Link f. Fabric CA team to provide some input on Fabric CA g. STL EPR ? (End Point Registry) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gWlbsKtgApOTm1E5XJsw2J3U6AvIRxujWiG-vm6ELOM/edit?usp=sharing EPID as identity repository. Vipin Bharathan has added some material from the introduction of the EPR into the paper. h. Sovrin-Identity Model- Drummond i. DiD->DDO model-Drummond j. X.509 (Version 3.0), X.525 Jonathan Levi k. Verifiable claims - Nathan/Sean/Drummond l. Sketch out Identity Interface- Vipin Bharathan Unassigned : Jan VerCammen, Daniela Merella, Hugo Toledo

dhuseby (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:04:44 GMT):
meeting time?

dhuseby (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:04:54 GMT):
@VipinB is the meeting now?

dhuseby (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:05:05 GMT):
that's what my calendar says

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:08:38 GMT):
Yes, @dhuseby - we are on.

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:08:51 GMT):
https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg

dhuseby (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:08:52 GMT):
where's vipin?

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:08:57 GMT):
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JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:09:12 GMT):
He is busy talking right now ;-)

dhuseby (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:09:15 GMT):
@JonathanLevi I'm in the webex call

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:09:25 GMT):
They moved to UberConf. See above.

dhuseby (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:09:26 GMT):
that's what's in the meeting request

dhuseby (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:09:29 GMT):
ok

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:09:49 GMT):
(You can just dial in, btw. That's the quickest)

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:10:14 GMT):
There aren't any slides projected yet or anything. You can download UberConf in the background.

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berserkr (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:15:17 GMT):
hiow do I unmute myself?

berserkr (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:15:19 GMT):
this is Danny

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:29:42 GMT):
@berserkr That's the hardest part ! ;-) Glad it worked.

berserkr (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:30:19 GMT):
yes, the icon does not change, haha

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:32:11 GMT):
Ha ha. --- BTW: Can I ask people here for a quick favor?

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:32:47 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=CtxB4gGuz5chzk8y3)

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:33:20 GMT):
I have quickly uploaded the raw Dutchess code we used at the hackathon:

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:33:57 GMT):
We need to "beef it up" with some terms & conditions... and all sorts of legal stuff, but can you please quickly try it out?

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:34:03 GMT):
http://dutchess.hacera.com/

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:34:32 GMT):
Probably better to do it with 2 browsers. This runs on Sawtooth.

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:34:56 GMT):
(And we expose the Sawtooth state via REST)

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:36:07 GMT):
BTW: Can I ask people here for a quick favor? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit?usp=sharing I have quickly uploaded the raw *Dutchess* code we used at the hackathon: We need to "beef it up" with some terms & conditions... and all sorts of legal stuff, but can you please quickly try it out? Probably better to do it with 2 browsers. This runs on Sawtooth, and we expose the Sawtooth's state: http://dutchess.hacera.com

vu3mmg (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:38:27 GMT):
could we define a usecase and then evolve from there (for biometrics with blockchain)

VipinB (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 18:38:10 GMT):
Any kind of authentication use case could involve biometrics

VipinB (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 18:38:51 GMT):
Usually to be found in the edges, like wallets or UIs that interact with the blockchain

VipinB (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 18:39:58 GMT):
Good call today with discussions on biometrics led by Danny, Hart, Jonathan, Gaurav

VipinB (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 18:47:27 GMT):
Sorry about the webex/Uber conference confusion. we are taking steps to cancel webex and send out UberConf

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 19:46:38 GMT):
BTW: re: http://dutchess.hacera.com

JonathanLevi (Wed, 14 Jun 2017 19:46:56 GMT):
Nice SQL Injection attempt with the DROP TABLE ;-)

cliveb (Thu, 15 Jun 2017 01:36:33 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=cfpvM4vr5GAcKeEiT) @VipinB Oops, I missed your invite. Authors would really appreciate comments to After the fact mandate changes. @drummondreed gave some great input at Monday's ReqWG bi-weekly. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1psJc9UWuteSzOqIG0VLIdzdlxFb9kq-Csw-dxcjPzEo/edit

hartm (Mon, 19 Jun 2017 00:04:34 GMT):
Does anyone know if there is a Hyperledger Indy logo yet?

VipinB (Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:03:49 GMT):
@hartm did an Identity WG presentation in Beijing hackfest, as usual there is big interest in the topic. We will create some more channels for participation- since uberconference times are inconvenient for the participants- Ideas for improving global collaboration welcome.

VipinB (Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:04:10 GMT):
@here special thanks to @hartm for his efforts in Beijing

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VipinB (Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:02:35 GMT):
@berserkr thanks for the biometrics presentation and paper last week. Should you like comments on the paper, please turn on commenting.

VipinB (Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:06:51 GMT):
@here Greg Wallace from linux foundation said that we would be able to use the services of technical writers that they hire to help us tighten up the paper. For this we need at least 50% of the content to be complete and most of the contributors to be identified.

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berserkr (Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:37:58 GMT):
will do, thank you

berserkr (Tue, 20 Jun 2017 19:59:24 GMT):
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-microsoft-accenture-digitalid-idUSKBN19A22B

berserkr (Tue, 20 Jun 2017 19:59:26 GMT):
:D

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VipinB (Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:46:18 GMT):
Saw that

VipinB (Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:46:36 GMT):
I will be talking to MS soon re: ID2020

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drummondreed (Mon, 26 Jun 2017 19:54:26 GMT):
BTW, there is a LOT of backstory to the Microsoft/Accenture announcement. I'm happy to share some more about that on the next WG call (as might Daniel Buchner from MS if he attends).

VipinB (Wed, 28 Jun 2017 13:13:45 GMT):
@drummondreed that would be good to hear

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VipinB (Wed, 28 Jun 2017 13:21:43 GMT):
Pacific 9 am, EDT 12 pm

VipinB (Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:56:00 GMT):
Agenda: Discuss id2020 announcement and relevance to Identity WG.

VipinB (Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:56:31 GMT):
Remaining work items

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Oskar_van_Deventer (Wed, 05 Jul 2017 09:03:17 GMT):
Dear friends of the Hyperledger Identity working group, Could I ask for your review of the document "After-the-fact mandate changes" (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1psJc9UWuteSzOqIG0VLIdzdlxFb9kq-Csw-dxcjPzEo), please? The documents describes use cases that require the authorization over a smart contract to be changed after-the-fact without the smart contract getting executed. The document contains the following requirements Requirement 1: A user (“anchor”) shall be able to sign over its authorization over a smart contract to another user (“guardian”) after the fact. 1a: The original user (“anchor”) loses its authorization over the smart contract. 1b: The original user (“anchor”) maintains its authorization over the smart contract. Requirement 2: A blockchain consortium shall be able to sign over the authorization over a smart contract from one user (“anchor”) to another user (“guardian”). Requirement 3: It should be possible to re-assign the authorization over multiple or all a smart contracts for a user (“anchor”) to another user (“guardian”) in a single action. Requirement 4: It should be possible to re-assign the authorization over a smart contract back to the original (“anchor”) user. Requirement 5: The solution to requirements 1-4 shall not require the handing over of private keys. Requirement 6: The solution to requirements 1-4 shall not require mutability of the blockchain. Requirement 7: The introduction of a solution to requirements 1-4 should be backward compatible, such that they also apply to smart contracts that predate this introduction. Requirement 8: The solution to requirements 1-4 may be programmable. The document has been developed in the Hyperledger RequirementsWG for a month now, and it is close to getting finalized. So this would be a good time to ask for your review. Looking forward to your reviews, comments and suggestions. Thank you! Best regards, Oskar

VipinB (Wed, 05 Jul 2017 15:56:03 GMT):
@Oskar_van_Deventer I have skimmed the document. Will do a more thorough reading before feedback.

tongli (Thu, 06 Jul 2017 12:44:49 GMT):
@Oskar_van_Deventer Thanks for writing up the document. I am very curious how fabric handles lost keys. In your document, you also describe this case. I would think that lost keys (not necessarily got stolen) is quite common.

tongli (Thu, 06 Jul 2017 12:45:42 GMT):
@Oskar_van_Deventer or wanting using the another identity (new one owned by same person) is also quite common.

tongli (Thu, 06 Jul 2017 12:46:04 GMT):
in any of the case, it will require the modification to the contract.

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VipinB (Thu, 06 Jul 2017 15:50:14 GMT):
Guys, this is a very familiar use case, under the heading of revocation, delegation etc. Almost always after the fact. We can discuss further. Current Implementations of DLT identity in Hyperledger DLTs follow hpki model or just a regular pki model, we can explore what is needed to extend these. Next audio call this coming Wednesday. Will be glad to have you @Oskar_van_Deventer and requirements wg present. Also curious to see what Indy guys like @nage or @drummondreed have to say.

nage (Thu, 06 Jul 2017 15:58:49 GMT):
This is indeed an important topic, and there is active work going on around this topic in Sovrin's community (AFAIK we don't have a WG around it yet, so ping @drummondreed if you're interested in getting involved). The DID specification accounts for this through the use of additional keys in the control block. You may have additional keys in that block that are allowed to do a key rotation under the right circumstances, and various different approaches are possible. For a private ledger this process could be defined as some type of recovery transaction where the rest of the ledger agrees to update your key, but inside of Sovrin, we expect that identity service providers will compete for business based on what services they provide--including secure key recovery services. We've talked about having identity escrow services, shamir's secret sharing schemes and many other approaches for having group consensus around rotating a key for someone who has lost their identity entirely.

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berserkr (Thu, 06 Jul 2017 20:22:29 GMT):
Just found this: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/difs-architectural-overview-daniel-buchner - relevant to what we are trying to do

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drummondreed (Fri, 07 Jul 2017 02:41:42 GMT):
I'm just getting to this channel after a day of other meetings. Three responses to the above 3 messages.

drummondreed (Fri, 07 Jul 2017 02:44:45 GMT):
First, @VipinB and @tongli, the Sovrin community is indeed quite focused on the key management issues since without key management there is not blockchain identity. As @nage says, part of it can be dealt with via the provisions of the control block in the DID spec (https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rebooting-the-web-of-trust-fall2016/blob/master/final-documents/did-implementer-draft-10.pdf). But the rest of the key management puzzle is an architecture we call DKMS (Decentralized Key Management System) that Evernym is working on under contract with U.S. Department of Homeland Security. Happy to explain more about that if it helps.

drummondreed (Fri, 07 Jul 2017 02:46:09 GMT):
Also, RE @berserkr 's point, I am co-chair of the Decentralized Identity Foundation (DIF) Identifiers, Names, and Discovery WG, of which DID architecture is the foundation, so happy to answer any questions there (as I get time to get on this channel - we are exploding in channels!)

drummondreed (Fri, 07 Jul 2017 09:13:04 GMT):
@VipinB One note about the upcoming Identity WG meeting—I am attending the DHS S&T Cybersecurity Showcase this coming week AND have an extended Sovrin Foundation Trustee meeting on Wednesday. Normally it would end just before the ID WG, but this one is going to go for 90 mins instead of 60 (and might even go longer). So @nage may need to cover for me this week.

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VipinB (Mon, 10 Jul 2017 17:31:35 GMT):
@drummondreed missed you in Seattle. But I did run into Daniel Buchner. For this week's call we return to familiar topics- I will post a tentative agenda. Hopefully @SeanBohan_Evernym will be there to help us as well- as he was on Summer vacation. Key management...

VipinB (Mon, 10 Jul 2017 17:32:22 GMT):
Will be one of the topics, we will add on to. The arch wg has been returning to basic themes like What is Consensus?

Oskar_van_Deventer (Mon, 10 Jul 2017 18:05:08 GMT):
@tongli The RequirementsWG document about after-the-fact mandate changes differs from lost keys. A typical before-the-fact solution to a lost key is assigning a bunch of friend and allow M-out--of-N friends sign your new key, in case you lost the old one. The essence of the "after-the-fact" is that no special measures had been taken beforehand. Still, there may some technical commonalities.

Oskar_van_Deventer (Mon, 10 Jul 2017 18:09:53 GMT):
@VipinB I would be happy to join this Wednesday. That would be Wednesday 12 July, 12:00 PM (noon) New York summer time, correct? (I am at Central European Summer Time, which is 6 hours ahead, hence 6:00 PM for me) By the way, @drummondreed was one of the reviewers of the document during one of the RequirementsWG calls.

VipinB (Mon, 10 Jul 2017 19:14:36 GMT):
The initial design of the Fabric Membership or Identity services by Dr. Kravitz had some of these ideas built in- there is no after the fact in fact. Key loss, key delegation etc. was envisaged as part of the system setup from the beginning, this is not a public network context. This can still be worked back into the system- since key loss and partial and total delegation are use cases that we start with and have been part of the discussions in the Identity WG from the getgo. However, the implementations in the DLTs have followed the path of least pain to implement and have used simple Asymmetric cryptography with HPKI thrown in for good measure.

tongli (Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:07:41 GMT):
@Oskar_van_Deventer Thanks for explaining the differences, I thought in both cases, it is a modification to the contract, who can be authorized to do that and how to establish that authority seems to be the key.

VipinB (Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:56:21 GMT):
First a shout-out to Fabric team for 1.0 release- first permissioned Blockchain production release!!!. Identity working group call 12th July 12 noon EDT Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international Agenda: 1.Discuss requirements laid out for key management especially recovery and delegation "after the fact". Review https://docs.google.com/document/d/1psJc9UWuteSzOqIG0VLIdzdlxFb9kq-Csw-dxcjPzEo 2.Expand on legal points (4th amendment) other identity related issues (read just the privacy and other special sections- hoping to get Dax Hansen to talk on the subject) https://www.virtualcurrencyreport.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2017/05/Perkins-Coie-Self-Sovereign-Identity-and-Distributed-Ledger-Technology_Framing-the-Legal-Issues-1.pdf 3.Continue working on the different sections of the paper. 4.AOB

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VipinB (Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:13:20 GMT):
@here thanks for an interesting meeting especially to our guest Oskar Van Deventer and Sean Bohan for minuting the meeting. Please recheck minutes and make emendations or suggestions for improvements

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VipinB (Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:09:26 GMT):
@here We have some ideas for the Agenda for our next call on July 26th. 1. An analysis of confidentiality & privacy topics as it relates to identity: We will use the base paper https://www.r3.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/survey_confidentiality_privacy_R3.pdf, this is a public paper from the R3 site. 2.Legal & regulatory underpinning for Identity- we will continue the discussion with reps from the Government sector (infrachain) and possibly a legal expert, may not happen until next meeting (August 9) 3.Verifiable claims (possibly with help from our friends from Indy/Sovrin) 4. Hope to have reworked material from our prior meetings as well as other contributions into the White paper. (mainly biometrics, Legal, use case around key management presented by Oskar DV)

VipinB (Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:18:58 GMT):
@here Please take another look at the biometrics paper that Danny Bathen @berserkr produced. He presented four weeks ago. Please enter comments for https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YaQo5Yd2ooDurKhL_iGWkHO5KuNFA9L50GkXCs3LqeA/edit We need to aborb the salient points into our whitepaper.

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VipinB (Wed, 26 Jul 2017 13:34:36 GMT):
@here Tentative Agenda for our call today. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international 1. Eligibility for electors for tsc, identity working group participants. 2. An analysis of confidentiality & privacy topics as it relates to identity: We will use the base paper https://www.r3.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/survey_confidentiality_privacy_R3.pdf, this is a public paper from the R3 site. 3. Legal & regulatory underpinning for Identity- we will continue the discussion with reps from the Government sector (infrachain) and possibly a legal expert, may not happen until next meeting (August 9) 4. Verifiable claims (possibly with help from our friends from Indy/Sovrin) 5. Hope to have reworked material from our prior meetings as well as other contributions into the White paper. (mainly biometrics, Legal, use case around key management presented by Oskar DV) 6. Please take another look at the biometrics paper that Danny Bathen @berserkr produced. He presented four weeks ago. Please enter comments for https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YaQo5Yd2ooDurKhL_iGWkHO5KuNFA9L50GkXCs3LqeA/edit We need to aborb the salient points into our whitepaper. 7. AOB

drummondreed (Wed, 26 Jul 2017 15:51:18 GMT):
@VipinB I am coming but will be about 10 mins late to this morning's call.

nage (Wed, 26 Jul 2017 15:58:57 GMT):
@VipinB do you have any idea how you want to time box the analysis of confidentiality and privacy topics discussion? It seems like it would be easy to spend the whole hour on that r3 document, especially where we can/should call out the limitations of the analysis relative to Hyperledger use cases (a simple example private blockchains can viably limit certain ledger disclosure, as is done with channels in Fabric).

nage (Wed, 26 Jul 2017 15:59:13 GMT):
Is it our intent to create an equivalent document at some level, or just ponder the points made there?

VipinB (Wed, 26 Jul 2017 17:02:58 GMT):
@nage good point-I will try to condense the discussions from @Sean_Bohan's notes

VipinB (Wed, 26 Jul 2017 17:03:04 GMT):
and the recordings

VipinB (Wed, 26 Jul 2017 18:55:18 GMT):
Re: channels, do all members of the channels have transparency into everything in the channel, even transactions before they were inducted into the channel? I seem to remember that the answer to this is yes. Which is a quite a privacy hole @nage

VipinB (Wed, 26 Jul 2017 18:56:04 GMT):
We did end up talking about all the other points. even though the bulk of the time was spent on the doc.

nage (Wed, 26 Jul 2017 19:19:28 GMT):
Agreed, just pointing out that constraints matter a lot to the arguments outlined in the doc, and the resulting privacy largely depends on how those constraints are shuffled

VipinB (Thu, 27 Jul 2017 14:37:22 GMT):
@nage the doc was just teed up to get us talking about the topic. Even noting the differences was useful.

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VipinB (Wed, 09 Aug 2017 13:26:57 GMT):
@here Tentative Agenda for our call today. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international 1. Eligibility for electors for tsc: we have sent out an email, please check the list at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hm1_Kz7i5AbYQoslLXTp6yk380OaSRMJ51f7bMY9n_M/edit#gid=31088272 2. Following discussion of confidentiality and privacy in our WG, the arch WG will host a committee chaired by Mic Bowman to discuss this topic in a more general (architectural) context. Please contact him for inclusion in committee. 3.Marco Houwen of Infrachain will present on Infrachain and Identity. 4.Drummond Reed will present on further developments 5. Please take another look at the biometrics paper that Danny Bathen @berserkr produced. He presented four weeks ago. Please enter comments for https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YaQo5Yd2ooDurKhL_iGWkHO5KuNFA9L50GkXCs3LqeA/edit We need to aborb the salient points into our whitepaper. 6. AOB

VipinB (Wed, 09 Aug 2017 13:26:57 GMT):
@here Tentative Agenda for our call today. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international 1. Eligibility for electors for tsc: we have sent out an email, please check the list at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hm1_Kz7i5AbYQoslLXTp6yk380OaSRMJ51f7bMY9n_M/edit#gid=31088272 2. Following discussion of confidentiality and privacy in our WG, the arch WG will host a committee chaired by Mic Bowman to discuss this topic in a more general (architectural) context. Please contact him for inclusion in committee. 3.Marco Houwen of Infrachain will present on Infrachain and Identity. 4.Drummond Reed will present on further developments in DiF 5. Please take another look at the biometrics paper that Danny Bathen @berserkr produced. He presented four weeks ago. Please enter comments for https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YaQo5Yd2ooDurKhL_iGWkHO5KuNFA9L50GkXCs3LqeA/edit We need to aborb the salient points into our whitepaper. 6. AOB

binhn (Wed, 09 Aug 2017 15:09:12 GMT):
@VipinB i can never keep track of what time the call is

VipinB (Wed, 09 Aug 2017 15:27:46 GMT):
12 noon to 1 pm

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drummondreed (Wed, 09 Aug 2017 18:15:31 GMT):
This just in from the DIF bi-weekly call - the link for the universal resolver API work is here: https://github.com/decentralized-identity/universal-resolver/blob/master/docs/api-documentation.md

VipinB (Wed, 09 Aug 2017 18:38:26 GMT):
Thanks for that link.

VipinB (Wed, 09 Aug 2017 18:40:16 GMT):
Great call today.. next call will likely be lead by @JonathanLevi as I will be on the road (driving) at the time of the call. If not I will call in and listen in. I will return by Sept 6th call

VipinB (Wed, 09 Aug 2017 18:40:16 GMT):
Great call today.. next call will likely be led by @JonathanLevi as I will be on the road (driving) at the time of the call. If not I will call in and listen in. I will return by Sept 6th call

VipinB (Wed, 09 Aug 2017 20:13:06 GMT):
As usual a shout out to @Sean_Bohan for taking detailed notes

VipinB (Wed, 09 Aug 2017 20:13:26 GMT):
Of today's call

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drummondreed (Thu, 10 Aug 2017 07:34:54 GMT):
Huge +1 to @Sean_Bohan for being the best notetaker I know.

drummondreed (Thu, 10 Aug 2017 07:35:46 GMT):
Also, Vipin, due to the combination of my 30th wedding anniversary trip and speaking at MyData2017 in Helsinki on Sept 1, I will be out for the next *two* calls. @nage and @Sean_Bohan should have it covered.

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Vrai1127 (Tue, 15 Aug 2017 20:40:50 GMT):
Hi All, is there a good sample with MSP setup (like fabcar, marbles??) and related identities which I could run to better understand MSP. Is Marbles a good example?

jljordan_bcgov (Tue, 15 Aug 2017 22:39:56 GMT):
Is there a place where one can discover the date and times for the calls?

JonathanLevi (Fri, 18 Aug 2017 01:56:27 GMT):
Hello @jljordan_bcgov

JonathanLevi (Fri, 18 Aug 2017 01:57:51 GMT):
We have this page, https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg with dial-up info, and in addition you are welcome to join the identity-wg mailing list (details on that same page)

JonathanLevi (Fri, 18 Aug 2017 01:58:04 GMT):
Welcome to the *identity-wg* ! ;-)

tkuhrt (Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:06:49 GMT):
@jljordan_bcgov : you can also see all Community calls on the Hyperledger Community Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=linuxfoundation.org_nf9u64g9k9rvd9f8vp4vur23b0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=US/Arizona (Change the ctz to match your time zone).

JonathanLevi (Wed, 23 Aug 2017 18:41:54 GMT):
Hello everybody and thanks to those who attended today's identity-wg

JonathanLevi (Wed, 23 Aug 2017 18:43:27 GMT):
I quickly put together a few notes from today's call. Please feel free to take a look/review and add your name if you attended: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit#

JonathanLevi (Wed, 23 Aug 2017 22:12:04 GMT):
FYI: https://lists.hyperledger.org/pipermail/hyperledger-identity-wg/2017-August/000015.html

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Vrai1127 (Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:08:06 GMT):
Could anyone point me to a good read on Permissions and the ACL piece. Is there a mechanism in fabric to control who access what asset and what they could do to that asset. (I want to understand how this is done outside of composer)

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VipinB (Wed, 06 Sep 2017 14:36:27 GMT):
Identity WG Call today at noon EDT Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international Links: Identity WG wiki https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg paper:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit?usp=sharing meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit?usp=sharing Agenda: Discuss Legacy systems and Interoperability Discuss Sections of the paper and how to collaborate

VipinB (Wed, 06 Sep 2017 15:28:10 GMT):
Some other relevant links: DiD->DDO https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rebooting-the-web-of-trust-spring2017/blob/master/topics-and-advance-readings/did-family-of-specifications.md http://www.jbonneau.com/doc/MBBFF15-coniks.pdf https://www.certificate-transparency.org/ https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6962 Some ideas proposed by Thomas Hardjono Ideas for Hyperledger: - PKI-specific blockchain: We could look at a ledger system built atop the Fabric that provided an more efficient implementation of features inherent to PKI. - Blockchain for Bridge-CA: Could a blockchain be used to effect a bridge among a group of CAs.

JonathanLevi (Thu, 07 Sep 2017 21:40:59 GMT):
Hello everybody

JonathanLevi (Thu, 07 Sep 2017 21:41:21 GMT):
Somebody has just run this my way:

JonathanLevi (Thu, 07 Sep 2017 21:41:38 GMT):
https://blog.xot.nl/2017/09/06/blockcerts-using-blokchain-for-identity-management-is-mostly-ridiculous

JonathanLevi (Thu, 07 Sep 2017 21:42:29 GMT):
Another angle/view/opinion...

JonathanLevi (Thu, 07 Sep 2017 21:42:35 GMT):
Thoughts welcome.

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jljordan_bcgov (Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:44:37 GMT):
I think http://community.blockcerts.org/t/response-to-blockchain-blockcerts-critiques-from-privacy-researcher/308 provides some reasonable counterpoints

jljordan_bcgov (Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:45:34 GMT):
it is good to be open to critique and think through some of these things .. I am currently pondering DDO and the risks (are they there?) of service endpoints as a means to correlated data and resolve them to an entitiy

jljordan_bcgov (Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:45:34 GMT):
it is good to be open to critique and think through some of these things .. I am currently pondering DDO and the risks (are they there?) of service endpoints as a means to correlated data and resolve them to an entity

jljordan_bcgov (Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:49:57 GMT):
I can relate to the feeling of wearisomeness of having "blockchain" thrown about as magic elixir to solve a bunch of problems that may not even be related to the actual problem characteristics / patterns that distributed ledgers can tackle. Further, it will take time to develop the language that provides people with the ability to differentiate between different technological capabilities aimed at specific problem pattern which happen to use distributed ledger as one of the ingredients.

jljordan_bcgov (Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:50:02 GMT):
some thoughts :)

jljordan_bcgov (Thu, 07 Sep 2017 23:05:17 GMT):
for example ... there are big differences between Hyperledger Fabric and Hyperledger Indy as we know ...

VipinB (Fri, 08 Sep 2017 13:39:26 GMT):
Yes of course since HL Fabric is generic for any asset. Indy could be (re) built on top of HL Sawtooth or even Fabric (it is currently) I believe built on top of a protocol named Plenum

VipinB (Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:34:28 GMT):
@JonathanLevi and others just took a look at the viewpoint from Dr. Hoepman, in short 1. It is specifically directed at Blockcerts 2. There is nothing like "The Blockchain" 3. There is no privacy 4. It injects another third party (namely the one that manages the Blockcerts) 5. The solution it presents is ABC (Attribute Based Credentials) These are rebutted to a great extent in the responses in the link posted by @jljordan_bcgov One item that is missing from Blockcerts implementation, uPort etc. are the fact that public blockchains that were intended to be for crypto currency (in the case of Bitcoin) or World computer (in the case of Ethereum) both with underlying currencies that are highly volatile are used for the storage of Blockcerts and to ensure longevity. This is why a system like what Sovrin uses which is purpose built for Identity and supported by an Independent foundation could have a better chance of solving this particular concern. Of course they are also solving all of the other items mentioned like "unlinkability", "Selective Disclosure" etc. Hopefully we can also solve the Achilles heel of most of these systems which is private key loss or theft that can lead to total loss of ownership of your identity. Maybe there are solutions to this that I am not aware of.

drummondreed (Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:31:31 GMT):
@VipinB The R&D work that Evernym is currently doing under contract with DHS on DKMS (decentralized key management system) is direct at exactly your point: "Hopefully we can also solve the Achilles heel of most of these systems which is private key loss or theft that can lead to total loss of ownership of your identity." I agree it is completely non-trivial, but using Sovrin agents and wallets—both edge-based and cloud-based—we believe we can solve this using an open and interoperable standard. I'd be happy to do a briefing on our DKMS work on the next WG call if that helps.

drummondreed (Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:32:07 GMT):
Here's a writeup on DKMS that we did for the spring Rebooting the Web of Trust conference: https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rebooting-the-web-of-trust-spring2017/blob/master/topics-and-advance-readings/dkms-decentralized-key-mgmt-system.md

JonathanLevi (Tue, 12 Sep 2017 15:01:09 GMT):
I really like this: http://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/SpecialPublications/NIST.SP.800-130.pdf

jljordan_bcgov (Tue, 12 Sep 2017 18:28:57 GMT):
One of the things we could contemplate in British Columbia regarding private key loss (and I definitely don't understand the specific mechanics of this) is that our citizens have been issues a "Services Card" that has an embedded EMV chip which is unique. I wonder if a citizen remains in possession of that card if they could use that as a means to recover a lost key on their phone app.

VipinB (Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:09:47 GMT):
Another item that I did not cite from Dr Hoepman's blog is the problem of credential binding...Maybe there are well known solutions to this as well.

VipinB (Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:12:38 GMT):
@drummondreed the DKMS piece may answer the requirement that was raised by @Oskar_van_Deventer in https://docs.google.com/document/d/1psJc9UWuteSzOqIG0VLIdzdlxFb9kq-Csw-dxcjPzEo

VipinB (Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:13:13 GMT):
@JonathanLevi Will read the nist paper and comment

drummondreed (Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:14:28 GMT):
@VipinB Yes, I believe the DKMS work will answer that requirement.

VipinB (Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:14:54 GMT):
So looks like @drummondreed could talk about the reception in regulatory terms to DiDs in Estonia and Finland as well as DKMS for meeting.

drummondreed (Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:15:20 GMT):
Yes, happy to do both

VipinB (Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:29:49 GMT):
We need to be looking at the Identity aspect of the Luxembourg initiatives through FundChain and LuxTrust and I was hoping that Marco Houwen of Infrachain may speak about that and about Cambridge Blockchain- we may need to tee this up for a later occasion. We need to look at the jurisdictional heterogeny in Identity requirements and how this view can be supported as well. The Canadians through securekey etc as well as MAS through some of their initiatives may provide the backdrop for this. As we need concrete ways in which this heterogeny can be handled (either in a single Blockchain that have nodes in all these localities or interoperating with chains based in these localities)

VipinB (Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:29:49 GMT):
We need to be looking at the Identity aspect of the Luxembourg initiatives through FundChain and LuxTrust and I was hoping that Marco Houwen of Infrachain may speak about that and about Cambridge Blockchain- we may need to tee this up for a later occasion. We need to look at the jurisdictional heterogeneity in Identity requirements and how this view can be supported as well. The Canadians through securekey etc as well as MAS through some of their initiatives may provide the backdrop for this. As we need concrete ways in which this heterogeneity can be handled (either in a single Blockchain that have nodes in all these localities or interoperating with chains based in these localities)

VipinB (Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:10:12 GMT):
@here Dublin hackathon needs topics in digital Identity since it is one their main themes. I have given them a tentative list. quoted below. Any other suggestions welcome. Hackathon is in Dublin Sept 30-Oct 1 1. Interoperability with Legacy systems. Extend the trust envelope to encompass Legacy systems used in the Enterprise 2. Unlinkability- how does this operate in the Enterprise space, does it even matter? What about transactions and the visibility to participants. 3. Integrate ZPK or other methods to prove certain statements revealing as little as possible about the identity of the participants 4. Selective Disclosure: How can an Identity disclose the minimum (even to legitimate counterparties) to get our transaction done? 5. Interoperability between chains and its effect on Identity. 6. Revocation/Key loss, theft or removal of privileges and continuity of transactions. This can involve people getting assigned different roles. 7. Interaction between public Identities (available on a self sovereign solution, like SOVRIN/Indy) and Identity on one of the Enterprise chains under Hyperledger. I would add -ID2020 - can it be implemented under Indy or some such DLT- create a small PoC to implement -How to make schemes like Aadhar more self-sovereign following the new legal rulings from Supreme court of India

drummondreed (Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:47:39 GMT):
Great list. My only additional suggested topics might be the DID spec (https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-spec/) and verifiable claims (https://www.w3.org/2017/vc/charter.html).

tongli (Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:54:37 GMT):
trying to setup fabric-ca.

tongli (Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:55:09 GMT):
got the following from the fabric-ca container log. not sure it is ok or not, can someone shed a bit light?

tongli (Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:55:44 GMT):
```2017/09/14 13:33:30 [DEBUG] CA initialization successful 2017/09/14 13:33:30 [INFO] Home directory for default CA: /etc/hyperledger/fabric-ca-server 2017/09/14 13:33:30 [DEBUG] 1 CA instance(s) running on server 2017/09/14 13:33:30 [DEBUG] TLS is enabled 2017/09/14 13:33:30 [DEBUG] Could not load TLS certificate with BCCSP: Could not find matching private key for SKI: CSP:500 - Failed getting key for SKI [[69 115 104 148 145 139 19 111 35 165 118 91 210 242 240 104 14 140 115 154 170 243 20 250 63 166 109 90 212 248 91 58]] /opt/gopath/src/github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/vendor/github.com/hyperledger/fabric/bccsp/sw/impl.go:257 github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/vendor/github.com/hyperledger/fabric/bccsp/sw.(*impl).GetKey /opt/gopath/src/github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/util/csp.go:218 github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/util.GetSignerFromCert /opt/gopath/src/github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/util/csp.go:340 github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/util.LoadX509KeyPair /opt/gopath/src/github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/lib/server.go:450 github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/lib.(*Server).listenAndServe /opt/gopath/src/github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/lib/server.go:127 github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/lib.(*Server).Start /opt/gopath/src/github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/cmd/fabric-ca-server/start.go:41 main.runStart /opt/gopath/src/github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/vendor/github.com/spf13/cobra/command.go:643 github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/vendor/github.com/spf13/cobra.(*Command).execute /opt/gopath/src/github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/vendor/github.com/spf13/cobra/command.go:734 github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/vendor/github.com/spf13/cobra.(*Command).ExecuteC /opt/gopath/src/github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/vendor/github.com/spf13/cobra/command.go:692 github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/vendor/github.com/spf13/cobra.(*Command).Execute /opt/gopath/src/github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/cmd/fabric-ca-server/main.go:95 main.RunMain /opt/gopath/src/github.com/hyperledger/fabric-ca/cmd/fabric-ca-server/main.go:82 main.main /opt/go/src/runtime/proc.go:192 runtime.main /opt/go/src/runtime/asm_amd64.s:2087 runtime.goexit Caused by: Key type not recognized 2017/09/14 13:33:30 [DEBUG] Attempting fallback with certfile /etc/hyperledger/fabric-ca-server-config/tlsca/tlsca.orga-cert.pem and keyfile /etc/hyperledger/fabric-ca-server-config/tlsca/45736894918b136f23a5765bd2f2f0680e8c739aaaf314fa3fa66d5ad4f85b3a_sk 2017/09/14 13:33:30 [DEBUG] Client authentication type requested: noclientcert 2017/09/14 13:33:30 [INFO] Listening on %!s(int=7054)%!(EXTRA string=https://0.0.0.0:7054)```

tongli (Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:56:19 GMT):
like to know if this "Could not load TLS certificate with BCCSP: Could not find matching private key for SKI" is ok or not ok.

VipinB (Thu, 14 Sep 2017 16:44:25 GMT):
@tongli please post on fabric-ca channel and you have a better chance of getting this answered

tongli (Thu, 14 Sep 2017 16:59:00 GMT):
@VipinB thanks.

VipinB (Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:25:42 GMT):
here The Identity WG Call is at 12 noon EDT today, the call is completely open, anyone can participate. For those enroute to Chicago, we wish them happy travels. Please spare a thought to the beautiful island of Domenica obliterated by Hurricane Maria and other spots either destroyed or being menaced by the train of hurricanes birthing in the eastern reaches of the Atlantic. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international All the resources (mailing list, meeting minutes, Charter, White/Yellow paper) can be linked from http://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg We continue working on paper- Ideas distilled from the last few calls regarding PKI, Interface to legacy systems, DKMS (revocation), Biometric Identity are being gathered to be input into the document. All contributors should review the changes; all those who have commented on the document- we will have a future session to discuss the comments and accept, reject or modify them. Agenda: 1.Location (or Jurisdiction) based regulations on Identity and their impact on the identity solutions in a global or product based Blockchain that HL incubates. 2.Drummond Reed will present on further developments in Jurisdictional convergence and differences in his travels through the systems of Estonia, Finland, Austria, the US etc. This is directly related to the item 1. above. Marco Houwen may present on this topic w.r.t Luxembourg/LuxTrust/Infrachain etc. on our next call. 3. AOB Please attend in person if possible, suggestions and edits to the documents are always welcome. Vipin

VipinB (Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:25:42 GMT):
@here The Identity WG Call is at 12 noon EDT today, the call is completely open, anyone can participate. For those enroute to Chicago, we wish them happy travels. Please spare a thought to the beautiful island of Domenica obliterated by Hurricane Maria and other spots either destroyed or being menaced by the train of hurricanes birthing in the eastern reaches of the Atlantic. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international All the resources (mailing list, meeting minutes, Charter, White/Yellow paper) can be linked from http://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg We continue working on paper- Ideas distilled from the last few calls regarding PKI, Interface to legacy systems, DKMS (revocation), Biometric Identity are being gathered to be input into the document. All contributors should review the changes; all those who have commented on the document- we will have a future session to discuss the comments and accept, reject or modify them. Agenda: 1.Location (or Jurisdiction) based regulations on Identity and their impact on the identity solutions in a global or product based Blockchain that HL incubates. 2.Drummond Reed will present on further developments in Jurisdictional convergence and differences in his travels through the systems of Estonia, Finland, Austria, the US etc. This is directly related to the item 1. above. Marco Houwen may present on this topic w.r.t Luxembourg/LuxTrust/Infrachain etc. on our next call. 3. AOB Please attend in person if possible, suggestions and edits to the documents are always welcome. Vipin

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mpiekarska (Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:30:34 GMT):
@here who is going to Rebooting Web of Trust next week? Excited to see you there!

nage (Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:39:23 GMT):
@drummondreed @brentzundel @danielhardman and a handful of other folks from Indy will be there

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mpiekarska (Sun, 01 Oct 2017 08:06:11 GMT):
yay!

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VipinB (Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:43:27 GMT):
@here The Identity WG Call is at 12 noon EDT today, the call is completely open, anyone can participate. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international All the resources (mailing list, meeting minutes, Charter, White/Yellow paper) can be linked from http://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg We continue working on paper- Ideas distilled from the last few calls regarding PKI, Interface to legacy systems, DKMS (revocation), Biometric Identity are being gathered to be input into the document. All contributors should review the changes; all those who have commented on the document- we will have a future session to discuss the comments and accept, reject or modify them. Agenda: 1.Marta Piekarska 2.Drummond Reed will present on further developments in Jurisdictional convergence and differences in his travels through the systems of Estonia, Finland, Austria, the US etc. This is directly related to the item 1. above. Marco Houwen may present on this topic w.r.t Luxembourg/LuxTrust/Infrachain etc. on our next call. 3. AOB Please attend in person if possible, suggestions and edits to the documents are always welcome. Vipin

VipinB (Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:50:02 GMT):
@here The Identity WG Call is at 12 noon EDT today, the call is completely open, anyone can participate. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international All the resources (mailing list, meeting minutes, Charter, White/Yellow paper) can be linked from http://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg We continue working on paper- Ideas distilled from the last few calls regarding PKI, Interface to legacy systems, DKMS (revocation), Biometric Identity are being gathered to be input into the document. All contributors should review the changes; all those who have commented on the document- we will have a future session to discuss the comments and accept, reject or modify them. Agenda: 1.Marta Piekarska 2.Drummond Reed will present on further developments in Jurisdictional convergence and differences in his travels through the systems of Estonia, Finland, Austria, the US etc. This is directly related to the item 1. above. Marco Houwen may present on this topic w.r.t Luxembourg/LuxTrust/Infrachain etc. on our next call. 3. AOB Please attend in person if possible, suggestions and edits to the documents are always welcome. Vipin

VipinB (Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:50:02 GMT):
@here The Identity WG Call is at 12 noon EDT today, the call is completely open, anyone can participate. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international All the resources (mailing list, meeting minutes, Charter, White/Yellow paper) can be linked from http://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg We continue working on paper- Ideas distilled from the last few calls regarding PKI, Interface to legacy systems, DKMS (revocation), Biometric Identity are being gathered to be input into the document. All contributors should review the changes; all those who have commented on the document- we will have a future session to discuss the comments and accept, reject or modify them. Agenda: 1.Marta Piekarska presents initiative to write paper on GDPR under the aegis of the ID WG. 2.We might hear from rebooting web of trust conference in Boston, especially on the important topic of DiD->DDO> Please comment on this important spec. 3.Marco Houwen may present on Luxembourg/LuxTrust/Infrachain etc. on our this call. 4. AOB Please attend in person if possible, suggestions and edits to the documents are always welcome. Vipin

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drummondreed (Wed, 04 Oct 2017 17:02:02 GMT):
Vipin, my apologies that I was not able to join today's call—at the Rebooting the Web of Trust conference we were DEEP DEEP into the DID spec, so I could not break out for the meeting.

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VipinB (Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:01:22 GMT):
No problem @drummondreed we are eager to hear what has come out of the RWT.

VipinB (Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:01:53 GMT):
Marta presented a proposal on GDPR and the IDWG and a paper

VipinB (Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:02:10 GMT):
Lots of interesting discussion ensued.

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mpiekarska (Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:14:00 GMT):
Second: here is the link to the GDPR paper. COntributions welcome! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1UUsoxLrmFhHgiXWPUCTlW4XFqsa8p0gy6JhpISP6A/edit?ts=59d4e1a3#heading=h.flgge0ag1yuw

mpiekarska (Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:14:19 GMT):
Hi everyone. Two things: @here we just cross signed with DIF, so now both organizations are associate members of each other. Thats a great step of bringing various pieces of the puzzle together.

dhuseby (Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:14:40 GMT):
nice

VipinB (Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:42:46 GMT):
Great move on DiF, met with D. Buchner before DiF was announced

drummondreed (Thu, 12 Oct 2017 02:54:51 GMT):
@mpiekarska Yes, very good news on DIF, I think it will be a real benefit for both. And I can't wait to get time to go through the GDPR white paper.

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VipinB (Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:21:21 GMT):
@mpiekarska How will DiF collaborate with us? I also know of other cross signing deals like with the Accord Project. Just want to know concrete ways in which this collaboration can be leveraged (by both parties)

VipinB (Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:21:54 GMT):
I suppose I should ask @bbehlendorf as well...

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mpiekarska (Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:27:21 GMT):
Im the Hyperledger's delegate to DiF and through me we are contributing ideas and concepts.

VipinB (Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:28:52 GMT):
How can we bring back some of the ideas from DiF into the Identity WG and our own standards? Will you assist with that @mpiekarska

VipinB (Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:29:24 GMT):
Should we have Daniel Buchner speak at one of our calls?

VipinB (Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:29:55 GMT):
We can also link some of the DiF work into our own docs/calls etc.

bbehlendorf (Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:30:09 GMT):
Marta will be a great bridge for this but we also expect other Hyperledger members to be involved in both and also act as bridges.

bbehlendorf (Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:30:22 GMT):
e.g. view Marta as a bridge, not a gateway

VipinB (Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:31:26 GMT):
Thanks @bbehlendorf for clarification. Hope your Sibos participation goes well.

drummondreed (Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:37:04 GMT):
I can also help bridge with DIF - I am on the Steering Committee and co-chair the Identifiers, Names, and Discovery WG.

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bsparks (Wed, 18 Oct 2017 18:45:57 GMT):
as mentioned in the ID WG call this morning: https://decentralize.today/a-new-attack-vector-to-deanonymize-bitcoin-users-9c6dc433d4b6 , there is some FUD but in light of the GDPR discussion, worth a look.overall.

VipinB (Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:17:59 GMT):
Seems like this leakage is happening on the edges (i.e. the user's own browsers)-This is quite interesting as we can infer that the weakest link (even with all the privacy built into the infrastructure systems) will be on the edges, anytime websites are used in browsers that do not provide adequate protection you can be compromised; including web wallets or websites you buy merchandise from paying for it using crypto. This is why there needs to be a good wallet software or a crypto aware browser, currently I know of none (Bravo/BATS is for other purposes)..

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VipinB (Wed, 01 Nov 2017 12:57:00 GMT):
@here The Identity WG Call is at 12 noon EDT today the first of November, the call is completely open, anyone can participate. We are aware that it is a holiday today. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international All the resources (mailing list, meeting minutes, Charter, White/Yellow paper) can be linked from http://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg We continue working on paper- Ideas distilled from the last few calls regarding PKI, Interface to legacy systems, DKMS (revocation), Biometric Identity are being gathered to be input into the document. All contributors should review the changes; all those who have commented on the document- we will have a future session to discuss the comments and accept, reject or modify them. Agenda: 1.Marta Piekarska presents initiative to write paper on GDPR under the aegis of the ID WG. We already had a presentation, we continue discussion. Link below. 2. Drummond presents on the cutting edge of identity RWOT, IIW, DHS, MIT Media lab etc. We will incorporate these ideas into our workstream. 3 AOB Please attend in person if possible, suggestions and edits to the documents are always welcome. Link to the GDPR paper. COntributions welcome! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1UUsoxLrmFhHgiXWPUCTlW4XFqsa8p0gy6JhpISP6A/edit?ts=59d4e1a3#heading=h.flgge0ag1yuw

VipinB (Wed, 01 Nov 2017 12:57:00 GMT):
@here The Identity WG Call is at 12 noon EDT today the 15th of November, the call is completely open, anyone can participate. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international All the resources (mailing list, meeting minutes, Charter, White/Yellow paper) can be linked from http://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg Agenda: 1.Discussion on GDPR paper. Link below. Specifically We can discuss some of the Article 29 Data Protection Working party guidelines in tomorrow's call. The following Adopted: Data Portability http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/document.cfm?doc_id=44099 Profiling and automated decision making http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/just/document.cfm?doc_id=47963 2 Work on the Identity WG paper:Please attend in person if possible, suggestions and edits to the documents are always welcome. Link to the GDPR paper. Contributions welcome! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1UUsoxLrmFhHgiXWPUCTlW4XFqsa8p0gy6JhpISP6A/edit?ts=59d4e1a3#heading=h.flgge0ag1yuw

VipinB (Wed, 01 Nov 2017 12:57:00 GMT):
@here The Identity WG Call is at 12 noon EDT today the 15th of November, the call is completely open, anyone can participate. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international All the resources (mailing list, meeting minutes, Charter, White/Yellow paper) can be linked from http://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg Agenda: 1.Discussion on GDPR paper. Link below. Specifically We can discuss some of the Article 29 Data Protection Working party guidelines in tomorrow's call. The following Adopted: Data Portability http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/document.cfm?doc_id=44099 Profiling and automated decision making http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/just/document.cfm?doc_id=47963 2 Work on the Identity WG paper:Please attend in person if possible, suggestions and edits to the documents are always welcome. Link to the GDPR paper. Contributions welcome! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1UUsoxLrmFhHgiXWPUCTlW4XFqsa8p0gy6JhpISP6A/edit?ts=59d4e1a3#heading=h.flgge0ag1yuw

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scottmackenzie (Sun, 05 Nov 2017 09:42:26 GMT):
Hi guys, not sure if this is the right chat for this question, but I’m following the indy install process, as documented here (https://github.com/evernym/sovrin-environments/blob/master/vagrant/training/vb-multi-vm/TestIndyClusterSetup.md). When I come to “Setting Up a CLI Client and Configuring the Agents in the Indy Cluster” and use vagrant to ssh into the cli01 host, and run “indy”, the “indy” binary is not found. Infact, the “indy” binary itself doesn’t seem to be installed on cli01 or any of the validator nodes. Other indy related artifacts are though. Perhaps I’m missing something or the guide is out of date (although it was updated 11 days ago). Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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Suedonym (Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:51:11 GMT):
@scottmackenzie I would post this on the #indy channel.

Suedonym (Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:51:11 GMT):
@scottmackenzie I would post this on the #indy channel.

Suedonym (Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:51:11 GMT):
@scottmackenzie I would post this on the #indy channel.

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VipinB (Wed, 15 Nov 2017 14:33:43 GMT):
@here The Identity WG Call is at 12 noon EDT today the 15th of November, the call is completely open, anyone can participate. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international All the resources (mailing list, meeting minutes, Charter, White/Yellow paper) can be linked from http://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg Agenda: 1.Discussion on GDPR under the aegis of the ID WG. We already had a presentation, we continue discussion. Article 29 Data Protection Working party guidelines in tomorrow's call. Primarily the following Data Portability http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/document.cfm?doc_id=44099 Profiling and automated decision making http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/just/document.cfm?doc_id=47963 Link to the GDPR paper. Contributions welcome! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1UUsoxLrmFhHgiXWPUCTlW4XFqsa8p0gy6JhpISP6A/edit?ts=59d4e1a3#heading=h.flgge0ag1yuw . 2.We continue working on paper- Ideas distilled from the last few calls regarding PKI, Interface to legacy systems, DKMS (revocation), Biometric Identity are being gathered to be input into the document. All contributors should review the changes; all those who have commented on the document- we will have a future session to discuss the comments and accept, reject or modify them. 3 AOB Please attend in person if possible, suggestions and edits to the documents are always welcome.

VipinB (Wed, 15 Nov 2017 14:33:43 GMT):
@here The Identity WG Call is at 12 noon EST today the 15th of November, the call is completely open, anyone can participate. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international All the resources (mailing list, meeting minutes, Charter, White/Yellow paper) can be linked from http://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg Agenda: 1.Discussion on GDPR under the aegis of the ID WG. We already had a presentation, we continue discussion. Article 29 Data Protection Working party. Primarily the following Data Portability http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/document.cfm?doc_id=44099 Profiling and automated decision making http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/just/document.cfm?doc_id=47963 Link to the GDPR paper. Contributions welcome! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1UUsoxLrmFhHgiXWPUCTlW4XFqsa8p0gy6JhpISP6A/edit?ts=59d4e1a3#heading=h.flgge0ag1yuw . 2.We continue working on paper- Ideas distilled from the last few calls regarding PKI, Interface to legacy systems, DKMS (revocation), Biometric Identity are being gathered to be input into the document. All contributors should review the changes; all those who have commented on the document- we will have a future session to discuss the comments and accept, reject or modify them. 3 AOB Please attend in person if possible, suggestions and edits to the documents are always welcome.

drummondreed (Wed, 15 Nov 2017 16:52:19 GMT):
Vipin, I have a conflict today due to this week being the Evernym bi-annual summit meeting in Utah. This pains me as I'd like to join both the GDPR and white paper discussions. But I'm hard stuck in the summit meeting this morning. Sorry.

VipinB (Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:45:17 GMT):
Thanks Drummond for the heads up. I would like to know more about what happened in Singapore w.r.t. banks interest in Indy- Susan was on the call

drummondreed (Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:55:49 GMT):
I was not in Singapore; that was Phil Windley, chair of the Sovrin Foundation. I think he'd be happy to attend a call as a guest if you'd like. He'd just need tenough notice.

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bsm117532 (Tue, 21 Nov 2017 22:55:05 GMT):
Greetings! Joining from Fidelity, formerly built the "Vida Identity" self-sovereign identity solution on Bitcoin.

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VipinB (Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:11:56 GMT):
Welcome @bsm117532! Please join next call to be announced on this channel, on Nov 29

VipinB (Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:49:49 GMT):
@bsm117532 From Solidx?

bsm117532 (Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:49:59 GMT):
Yes, hey Vipin!

VipinB (Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:56:50 GMT):
Hope to see you on the next call

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bobsummerwill (Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:16:52 GMT):
Hey yo, @VipinB :-) https://bobsummerwill.com/2017/10/18/bobs-next-adventure/ I am coming in your general direction in the near future. Have applied for membership of EEA and Hyperledger for Sweetbridge.

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mpiekarska (Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:59:59 GMT):
Dear Identity Community! We are coorganizing IEEE Security and Privacy on Blockchain workshop as part of the Euro S&P this year in London: https://www.ieee-security.org/TC/EuroSP2018 . We are seeking interested and experienced people who can volunteer as members of Program Committee. Please email me privately if you would like to participate: mpiekarska@linuxfoundation.org

VipinB (Tue, 28 Nov 2017 19:46:02 GMT):
@here The Identity WG Call is at 12 noon EST, the 29th of November, the call is completely open, anyone can participate. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international All the resources (mailing list, meeting minutes, Charter, White/Yellow paper) can be linked from http://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg Agenda: 1.Discussion on GDPR under the aegis of the ID WG. We already had a presentation, we continue discussion. Article 29 Data Protection Working party. We already discussed Data Portability http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/document.cfm?doc_id=44099 Did not discuss much of Profiling and automated decision making http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/just/document.cfm?doc_id=47963 Also for cross jurisdictional effects: http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/just/document.cfm?doc_id=44102 Link to the GDPR paper. Contributions welcome! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1UUsoxLrmFhHgiXWPUCTlW4XFqsa8p0gy6JhpISP6A/edit?ts=59d4e1a3#heading=h.flgge0ag1yuw . 2.Code signing certificates discussion between William Santiago & Leo Grove on email. William or Leo, would be good to get your views in our forum. 3. Add to Identity doc: PKI, Interface to legacy systems, DKMS (revocation), Biometric Identity are being gathered to be input into the document. All contributors should review the changes; all those who have commented on the document- we will have a future session to discuss the comments and accept, reject or modify them. 3 AOB Please attend in person if possible, suggestions and edits to the documents are always welcome.

VipinB (Tue, 28 Nov 2017 19:46:02 GMT):
@here The Identity WG Call is at 12 noon EST, the 29th of November, the call is completely open, anyone can participate. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international All the resources (mailing list, meeting minutes, Charter, White/Yellow paper) can be linked from http://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg Agenda: 1. Discussion on Fabric CA @smithbk will lead with answers... 2.Code signing certificates discussion between William Santiago & Leo Grove on email. William or Leo, would be good to get your views in our forum. 3.Discussion on GDPR under the aegis of the ID WG. We already had a presentation, we continue discussion. Article 29 Data Protection Working party. We already discussed Data Portability http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/document.cfm?doc_id=44099 Did not discuss much of Profiling and automated decision making http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/just/document.cfm?doc_id=47963 Also for cross jurisdictional effects: http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/just/document.cfm?doc_id=44102 Link to the GDPR paper. Contributions welcome! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1UUsoxLrmFhHgiXWPUCTlW4XFqsa8p0gy6JhpISP6A/edit?ts=59d4e1a3#heading=h.flgge0ag1yuw . 4. Add to Identity doc: PKI, Interface to legacy systems, DKMS (revocation), Biometric Identity are being gathered to be input into the document. All contributors should review the changes; all those who have commented on the document- we will have a future session to discuss the comments and accept, reject or modify them. 5 AOB Please attend in person if possible, suggestions and edits to the documents are always welcome.

drummondreed (Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:35:55 GMT):
Vipin, just a note that the Sovrin Foundation Board of Trustees meeting is running long; I still hope to join today's call but must stay with this call until it ends as I am Secretary.

Sean_Bohan (Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:59:59 GMT):
folks: Notes from this week's IdentityWG Call: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit#

VipinB (Wed, 29 Nov 2017 18:15:10 GMT):
Thanks to @Sean_Bohan for taking notes

C0rnelius (Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:23:06 GMT):
Hi guys, I am relatively new to Hyperledger and currently looking into access management on Fabric. To my understanding, access to channels is granted through the scope of organizations, where each organization represents one company. User access is than granted by a single peer run by the company. Therefore, user access is handled on the peer and off-chain. Did I get this right? Is it possible to run multiple peers within one company and have them store access information on the chain to further decentralize my network? I hope this is the right place for this kind of question.

VipinB (Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:05:38 GMT):
Use the fabric-ca channel to ask fabric specific questions, this will yield quicker and truer answers @C0rnelius

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VipinB (Wed, 13 Dec 2017 15:43:25 GMT):
@here The Identity WG Call is at 12 noon EST, the 13th of December, the call is completely open, anyone can participate. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international All the resources (mailing list, meeting minutes, Charter, White/Yellow paper) can be linked from http://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg Agenda: 1. Reboot and recap of Identity WG for 2018... 2.Code signing certificates discussion between William Santiago & Leo Grove on email. William or Leo, would be good to get your views in our forum. 3.Discussion on GDPR under the aegis of the ID WG. We already had a presentation, we continue discussion. Article 29 Data Protection Working party. We already discussed Data Portability http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/document.cfm?doc_id=44099 Did not discuss much of Profiling and automated decision making http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/just/document.cfm?doc_id=47963 Also for cross jurisdictional effects: http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/just/document.cfm?doc_id=44102 Link to the GDPR paper. Contributions welcome! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1UUsoxLrmFhHgiXWPUCTlW4XFqsa8p0gy6JhpISP6A/edit?ts=59d4e1a3#heading=h.flgge0ag1yuw . 4. Add to Identity doc: PKI, Interface to legacy systems, DKMS (revocation), Biometric Identity are being gathered to be input into the document. All contributors should review the changes; all those who have commented on the document- we will have a future session to discuss the comments and accept, reject or modify them. 5 AOB Please attend in person if possible, suggestions and edits to the documents are always welcome.

drummondreed (Wed, 13 Dec 2017 15:44:29 GMT):
Vipin, I'll be on the call for the first 30 mins; I have a conflict for the second 30 mins.

VipinB (Wed, 13 Dec 2017 15:46:07 GMT):
Talk about what you like to see in 2018

VipinB (Wed, 13 Dec 2017 15:46:29 GMT):
Especially w.r.t. Indy/Sovrin and IDWG

drummondreed (Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:03:02 GMT):
Ok

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davux (Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:41:55 GMT):
hi everyone, I'm trying to understand something: is this a generic identity-wg chatroom or is it specific to identity over Hyperledger?

tkuhrt (Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:50:49 GMT):
This channel is for the Identity working group. See https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg

tkuhrt (Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:50:57 GMT):
@davux ^^

tkuhrt (Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:52:02 GMT):
Identity Working Group

tkuhrt (Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:52:10 GMT):
For more information see: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg

davux (Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:55:44 GMT):
is it related to the working groups at W3C and Digital Identity Foundation?

davux (Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:56:08 GMT):
I'm feeling dizzy with so many identity-related standards-building entities

davux (Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:56:08 GMT):
I'm feeling dizzy with so many identity-related standards-definig entities

davux (Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:56:08 GMT):
I'm feeling dizzy with so many identity-related standards-defining entities

tkuhrt (Tue, 26 Dec 2017 20:30:17 GMT):
There are folks that are part of the Hyperledger Identity WG that work closely with the Digital Identity Foundation. From the charter, this is what this WG is focused on: >The purpose of the Identity Working Group is to discuss, research, and document ways to capture, store, transmit and use Identities on the DLT, specifically for the projects under the Hyperledger umbrella. The Identities can be of nodes that participate in the running of the DLT or entities that transact on the DLT. >The scope is limited to the various lifecycle events and use of Identity needed to securely participate in the Hyperledger Project DLT implementations. The group will focus on the functional details first, and subsequently work towards a reference implementation.

davux (Tue, 26 Dec 2017 23:08:26 GMT):
I see, thanks @tkuhrt

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VipinB (Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:16:22 GMT):
Happy new year! all- There will be an Identity WG call next week Wednesday the 10th of Jan, at 12 noon EST

VipinB (Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:16:55 GMT):
Thanks to @tkuhrt for clarifying our description and name

VipinB (Tue, 09 Jan 2018 17:19:31 GMT):
@here First call of the Identity WG for 2018 tomorrow at noon EDT Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international Agenda: New challenges for the year and the roadmap!

VipinB (Wed, 10 Jan 2018 18:08:11 GMT):
@here great call today. If you have not yet, please join the identity wg mailing list. Special thanks to Drummond, Marta, Stan, Hart, Cornelius, Tony, George Henri and others

VipinB (Wed, 10 Jan 2018 18:08:47 GMT):
Not to mention Tracy

jenmcgrath01 (Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:37:55 GMT):
Thanks, @VipinB , for hosting the call yesterday. Quite a bit of knowledge represented! I was on and off so didn't jump in, but I heard the message loud and clear that there's a desire to get some more momentum going on the white paper. I'd love to help if I can, and it would be helpful to me if one of the group veterans could provide the elevator pitch/newbie orientation for the white paper including: 1) a list of the intended audience(s) 2) the background that those audiences would be presumed to have and 3) A summary of what we hope those audiences would take away from reading the paper. That introduction would make it quite a bit easier for us new people to contribute effectively.

VipinB (Thu, 11 Jan 2018 22:50:28 GMT):
@jenmcgrath01 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NZIOmxBSKCPkJ2OW9bPdUgH7T4JVSP4zbaumXtsyOpg/edit?usp=drivesdk is the charter we operate under. The work products section discusses the paper in detail which may answer your questions

jenmcgrath01 (Sun, 14 Jan 2018 20:37:13 GMT):
Thanks, Vipin. I will check it out and see if that helps!

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drummondreed (Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:46:16 GMT):
FYI, the Sovrin white paper that I mentioned on the last Identity WG call has now been publicly released: https://sovrin.org/library/sovrin-protocol-and-token-white-paper

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VipinB (Wed, 24 Jan 2018 16:03:11 GMT):
@here Second call of the Identity WG for 2018 today at noon EDT Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/hyperledger-community Optional dial in number: 401-283-2000,,,4807579435# No PIN needed Regional dial in numbers can be found here: https://www.uberconference.com/international Agenda: Re-Examine our raison d’etre What are our goals as a group: The paper? An implementation? Hyperledger joined ID2020, what are the concrete implications for the identity WG Impact of PSD II, GDPR, MiFID

snowy13 (Wed, 24 Jan 2018 19:22:41 GMT):
Hi @VipinB Are the recordings from the last few meetings available anywhere?

VipinB (Wed, 24 Jan 2018 20:52:45 GMT):
@snowy13 https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_NJV6eJXAA1R1otcU5UNHVDdDg

VipinB (Wed, 24 Jan 2018 20:53:35 GMT):
Normally @tkuhrt updates this soon after the calls, so thanks to her we have records for all the calls

snowy13 (Thu, 25 Jan 2018 00:25:03 GMT):
Awesome thank you!

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drummondreed (Thu, 25 Jan 2018 06:18:53 GMT):
@VipinB et al, my apologies for not being able to attend today—am in a Hyperledger Indy summit that is taking my full attention (but well worth it). I'll try to be on in 2 weeks.

VipinB (Thu, 25 Jan 2018 15:06:51 GMT):
@here todays call agenda quickly converged on the European and PSD II, GDPR, MiFID etc. There was some serious discussion on eIDas Some correlation for interoperability among sovereign IDs across the EU.

VipinB (Thu, 25 Jan 2018 15:06:51 GMT):
@here This Wednesday's call (02/07/2018) 12 noon on EST Topic: Hyperledger Identity WG Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/505940931 Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16699006833,,505940931## or +16465588656,,505940931## Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 669 900 6833 or +1 646 558 8656 or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 505 940 931 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/zoomconference?m=VPMpZtK9AN_cGbr0DxAa-qfH1W-lxAo5

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tobowers (Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:24:12 GMT):
I'm messing around with storing users as DIDs in my software... since DIDs have dropped authorization and suggest to use capabilities... is there anyway to attach additional fields to a DID? I see "metadata" is in progress... what I would like to do is set "initialCapability" - so that maybe a DID couldn't edit itself, etc

drummondreed (Mon, 29 Jan 2018 06:13:16 GMT):
Yes, you can extend a DID document to include other properties by adding your own JSON-LD context.

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VipinB (Mon, 05 Feb 2018 20:38:05 GMT):
@here call on Wednesday 12 noon EST (02/07) will happen on Zoom... Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/505940931 Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16699006833,,505940931## or +16465588656,,505940931## Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 669 900 6833 or +1 646 558 8656 or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 505 940 931 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/zoomconference?m=VPMpZtK9AN_cGbr0DxAa-qfH1W-lxAo5

VipinB (Mon, 05 Feb 2018 20:38:05 GMT):
@here to repeat call on Wednesday 12 noon EST (02/07) will happen on Zoom... Agenda: Antitrust policy Administrative: Split the meeting notes into 2016, 2017 and current- Conferences: HIMSS 2018, people needed at the HL booth to talk about Identity Project proposal for Intern Hyperledger joined ID2020, what are the concrete implications for the identity WG Continue work on the paper Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/505940931 Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16699006833,,505940931## or +16465588656,,505940931## Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 669 900 6833 or +1 646 558 8656 or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 505 940 931 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/zoomconference?m=VPMpZtK9AN_cGbr0DxAa-qfH1W-lxAo5

VipinB (Mon, 05 Feb 2018 20:38:05 GMT):
@here Call Today 02/07/2018 12 noon EST (02/07) will happen on Zoom...(details below) Agenda: Antitrust policy Administrative: Split the meeting notes into 2016, 2017 and current- Conferences: HIMSS 2018, people needed at the HL booth to talk about Identity Project proposal for Intern Hyperledger joined ID2020, what are the concrete implications for the identity WG Continue work on the paper Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/505940931 Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16699006833,,505940931## or +16465588656,,505940931## Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 669 900 6833 or +1 646 558 8656 or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 505 940 931 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/zoomconference?m=VPMpZtK9AN_cGbr0DxAa-qfH1W-lxAo5

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drummondreed (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 16:51:49 GMT):
@VipinB I'm planning to come to the start of the Identity Working Group meeting today, but it's winter summit week at Evernym so I will not be able to stay for the whole meeting. I'm happy to give a short update on the status of the DID spec and the DHS DKMS project.

Sean_Bohan (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:11:16 GMT):
ID WG Call notes here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit#

Sean_Bohan (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:12:57 GMT):
Hyperledger Hackfest Los Angeles https://hyperledger.org/event/hyperledger-hackfest-february-2018 Hyperledger Hackfest Amsterdam https://hyperledger.org/event/hyperledger-hackfest-june-2018

hartm (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:13:58 GMT):
I guess we are using this now.

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Sean_Bohan (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:17:24 GMT):
http://www.himssconference.org/

Sean_Bohan (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:17:27 GMT):
using both :)

hartm (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:34:39 GMT):
Yeah, the architecture working group (and architecture in general) is more about the interfaces between modules.

dhuseby (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:45:09 GMT):
sorry

dhuseby (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:45:13 GMT):
switching to rocket.chat

dhuseby (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:45:47 GMT):
this working group could focus on how to apply all of the cool identity on the blockchain technology that's coalescing

dhuseby (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:47:33 GMT):
I guess you guys can't hear me

dhuseby (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:47:46 GMT):
I don't think this WG needs to cover everything

dhuseby (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:48:05 GMT):
why not pick one reasonable integration/solution and work through the issues and report on it

dhuseby (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:48:19 GMT):
e.g. using Indy for identity in conjunction with Sawtooth

dhuseby (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:48:22 GMT):
or something like that

drummondreed (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:48:26 GMT):
I have had to leave the audio but I agree with Dave's suggestion that the WG focus on how to apply the cool blockchain identity tech being developed in Hyperledger projects

dhuseby (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:49:26 GMT):
or even just something like "verifiable claims in practice"

dhuseby (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:49:58 GMT):
how would an enterprise deploy one of our blockchains to do a tangible identity application

dhuseby (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:50:25 GMT):
of course it's not just about writing a paper, it would be about doing a demonstration project and then writing about it

dhuseby (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:50:45 GMT):
a series of blog posts or something like that

Sean_Bohan (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 18:01:04 GMT):
https://www.bcdevexchange.org/projects/prj-verifiable-organizations-network---theorgbook

drummondreed (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 18:01:21 GMT):
I love the idea of a demonstration project. Evernym is currently working on several pilots, some of which could potentially serve as demo projects. Note that several of them are with governmental agencies like the one that Sean just listed.

VipinB (Wed, 07 Feb 2018 18:02:44 GMT):
--end of IDWG call---

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NateDiNiro (Thu, 08 Feb 2018 19:25:54 GMT):
FYI, if healthcare in your area of interest, and/or you are attending HIMSS, the #healthcare-wg is also planning on having representatives present. There may be some synergy between the workgroups as issues of identity are omnipresent in healthcare, and some of the participants in the group like my form YouBase, contend with issues of identity, data, trust, consent, etc. Would be great if we can find a way to cross-pollenate. Cheers,

NateDiNiro (Thu, 08 Feb 2018 19:25:58 GMT):
Nate

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dinesh.rivankar (Fri, 09 Feb 2018 09:11:02 GMT):
Hi Guys, we are trying to create a wallet by using Fabric v1.0. Here are the challenges faced: https://jira.hyperledger.org/browse/FAB-8129 Appreciate if someone can share design thinking.

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VipinB (Fri, 09 Feb 2018 14:08:14 GMT):
@dinesh.rivankar please post in Fabric or Fabric-ca channels

VipinB (Fri, 09 Feb 2018 14:08:36 GMT):
They will be better able to assist you there

VipinB (Fri, 09 Feb 2018 14:12:04 GMT):
@NateDiNiro Saw your note re: collaboration with Identity WG. That would be good. This week we are breaking the sections of the paper for work into sections. We will post on ID WG email list as well as this channel. As far as HIMSS is concerned, it was brought up on our call as a call to volunteer and as an opportunity for our members. There are some people from the healthcare industry who participate in the bi-weekly calls. I do not know whether they are members of healthcare-wg.

VipinB (Fri, 09 Feb 2018 14:12:04 GMT):
@NateDiNiro Saw your note re: collaboration with Identity WG. That would be good. This week we are breaking the the paper for work into sections. We will post on ID WG email list as well as this channel. As far as HIMSS is concerned, it was brought up on our call as a call to volunteer and as an opportunity for our members. There are some people from the healthcare industry who participate in the bi-weekly calls. I do not know whether they are members of healthcare-wg.

NateDiNiro (Fri, 09 Feb 2018 16:19:11 GMT):
Thanks @VipinB !

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VipinB (Tue, 20 Feb 2018 14:44:23 GMT):
@here What has been accomplished ! 1. Create sections What needs to be accomplished! 1. Cleanup of the Paper (move out comments and unfinished segments into a separate doc) 2. Volunteers and due dates for the sections. 3. Suggestions from community- before next meeting and ongoing- how to monitor status etc. 4. Sections – Put in some meat and a rough status 5. Further breakdown of sections 6. Created a comprehensive Reference section Some of the Dimensions of Identity to be filled out in the sections below • Threat Surfaces & Threat Models • Lifecycle of Identity in the Blockchain-Portability, Recoverability, Reissuance, Revocability • Trusted Execution Environments (TEEs) and provability • Anonymity and Privacy including unlinkability. • Reputation, Personas, Delegation to proxies • Multi-Factor-Biometrics, other methods • Regulations and Identity (European regulations/others)- eIDAs, PSD II, GDPR, MiFID, MAS etc. • Legal implications (Digital Signatures) Feedback so far: • Looks too comprehensive, so need to boil it down and address details in sub-documents or documents that are linked • Use more of a use case approach to discuss how threat models or scenarios can be dealt with in lifecycle, regulations etc. This might provide more of an intro to non-technical people. • Each Section to be approximately 200-500 words Sections of the Identity WG document: 1. Introduction- pretty complete 2. Use Cases 3. PKI 4. Central authority –Or Federated Identity 5. X.500 & LDAP Systems 6. Self-Sovereignty 7. DiDs 8. Standards: OAuth, UMA, OpenID 9. Interoperability 10. Identity Models in Hyperledger DLTs a. Indy b. Sawtooth c. Fabric d. Burrow e. Quilt f. Iroha 11. Interface for an Identity Utility: 12. Proposal & Project Plan for an implementation: 13. References: 14. Contributors:

VipinB (Tue, 20 Feb 2018 14:44:23 GMT):
@here What has been accomplished since last meeting! 1. Create sections What needs to be accomplished! 1. Cleanup of the Paper (move out comments and unfinished segments into a separate doc) 2. Volunteers and due dates for the sections. 3. Suggestions from community- before next meeting and ongoing- how to monitor status etc. 4. Sections – Put in some meat and a rough status 5. Further breakdown of sections 6. Created a comprehensive Reference section Some of the Dimensions of Identity to be filled out in the sections below • Threat Surfaces & Threat Models • Lifecycle of Identity in the Blockchain-Portability, Recoverability, Reissuance, Revocability • Trusted Execution Environments (TEEs) and provability • Anonymity and Privacy including unlinkability. • Reputation, Personas, Delegation to proxies • Multi-Factor-Biometrics, other methods • Regulations and Identity (European regulations/others)- eIDAs, PSD II, GDPR, MiFID, MAS etc. • Legal implications (Digital Signatures) Feedback so far: • Looks too comprehensive, so need to boil it down and address details in sub-documents or documents that are linked • Use more of a use case approach to discuss how threat models or scenarios can be dealt with in lifecycle, regulations etc. This might provide more of an intro to non-technical people. • Each Section to be approximately 200-500 words Sections of the Identity WG document: 1. Introduction- pretty complete 2. Use Cases 3. PKI 4. Central authority –Or Federated Identity 5. X.500 & LDAP Systems 6. Self-Sovereignty 7. DiDs 8. Standards: OAuth, UMA, OpenID 9. Interoperability 10. Identity Models in Hyperledger DLTs a. Indy b. Sawtooth c. Fabric d. Burrow e. Quilt f. Iroha 11. Interface for an Identity Utility: 12. Proposal & Project Plan for an implementation: 13. References: 14. Contributors:

VipinB (Tue, 20 Feb 2018 14:48:24 GMT):
@here Call (02/21/2018 12 noon EST (02/07) will happen on Zoom...(details below)- we will be coinciding with hackfest opening ceremonies in LA, so this may be short as many members will be in LA. But we will discuss the following Agenda. Agenda: Antitrust policy Discuss paper sections and call for volunteers Proposal for an intern project (in collaboration with Indy or otherwise) Hyperledger joined ID2020, concrete implications for the identity WG Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/505940931 Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16699006833,,505940931## or +16465588656,,505940931## Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 669 900 6833 or +1 646 558 8656 or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 505 940 931 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/zoomconference?m=VPMpZtK9AN_cGbr0DxAa-qfH1W-lxAo5

VipinB (Wed, 21 Feb 2018 15:58:41 GMT):
@here - slightly reworked Broken out into Sections/subsections Each Section/Sub section to be approximately 200-500 words Sections/Sub-Sections of the Identity WG document: 1. Introduction 2. Use Cases & Scenarios 3. Standards & Regulations: a. OAuth, UMA, OpenID b. Regulations eIDAs, PSD II, GDPR, MiFID, MAS etc. 4. Identity Warriors a. Verifiable Claims Working Group b. RWOT c. IIW d. DiF 5. Implementing Identity Schemes a. PKI b. Central authority – Federated authority c. X.500 & LDAP Systems d. Self-Sovereignty i. DiDs ii. Verifiable Claims e. Interoperability 6. Identity Models in Hyperledger DLTs a. Indy b. Sawtooth c. Fabric d. Burrow e. Quilt f. Iroha 7. Interface for an Identity Utility: 8. Proposal & Project Plan for an implementation: 9. References: 10. Contributors:

hartm (Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:33:47 GMT):
Ram wants to talk.

VipinB (Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:23:35 GMT):
Good call today. Items we talked about: Sections of the paper There were views on two broad sections from Nitin as well as from Hart- Nitin focused on the divide between the use cases and the models-implementation Whereas Hart said that there is a divide between the technical aspects (i.e. Identity of the nodes vs. Identity of Transactors in use cases). Also we know that there would be linkage between the two sorts of identity (nodes vs transactors) as the bootstrapping process would verify the nodes first and through that the Transactors. Vipin & James to collaborate on creating a skeleton of the paper before the meeting.

VipinB (Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:23:35 GMT):
Good call today. Items we talked about: Sections of the paper There were views on two broad sections from Nitin as well as from Hart- Nitin focused on the divide between the use cases and the models-implementation Whereas Hart said that there is a divide between the technical aspects (i.e. Identity of the nodes vs. Identity of Transactors in use cases). Also we know that there would be linkage between the two sorts of identity (nodes vs transactors) as the bootstrapping process would verify the nodes first and through that the Transactors. Vipin & James to collaborate on creating a skeleton of the paper before the next meeting.

VipinB (Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:25:35 GMT):
We also discussed two other items: ID2020 - technical direction and as a general use case- we will talk to Marta who will be the HL representative in the ID2020 workshop and get her feedback on this. Also project plan for intern (mentored by Indy people and Identity WG)

VipinB (Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:26:32 GMT):
Sean will make the project proposal for intern public. Of course in time for comments before Friday the 23rd.

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VipinB (Mon, 05 Mar 2018 16:38:42 GMT):
Sections/Sub-Sections of the Identity WG document (We will create a doc for just this part): We just have the following suggestions with the number of words- we may rework this later. Phase 2 will be evaluated later. We have not put anything in for methods (like biometrics/two factor/HSM etc.), nor threat models. About 5000 words accounted for so far. Maybe this projection is too much. 1. Introduction (500-max) General Intro to the paper, basic definitions, what are we attempting to do, general narrative arc. Status-almost complete – Volunteer- Vipin Bharathan- need people to proof and suggest 2. Use Cases & Scenarios (1000) At least four use cases from different areas in the Enterprise- should cover boot strapping, on-boarding, changes, revocation, roles, expiry- each to cover about 100 words Suggestions: Cash on Ledger (public use case), Pure Identity (Indy), RTGS (Real Time Gross settlement), Payment, Health Records Community can suggest other use cases: Status-There is nothing here –volunteers needed 3. Standards & Regulations: One is existing standards in Identity, two are regulations Volunteers needed- (1200) a. OAuth, UMA, OpenID (600) b. Regulations eIDAs, PSD II, GDPR, MiFID, MAS etc. (600) 4. Identity Warriors Brief writeup on each with relevance to our work- about 100 words each- volunteers needed(500) a. Verifiable Claims Working Group b. RWOT c. ID2020 d. IIW e. DiF 5. Implementing Identity Schemes- Each needs a volunteer- except for ones noted explicitly(1000) a. PKI- Describe PKI 100 words max b. Central authority – Federated authority- Describe CAs 100 words max c. X.500 & LDAP Systems- Describe standards 200 words d. Self-Sovereignty – Concept 100 words- i. DiDs & Verifiable Claims Describe current standards 200 words e. Interoperability – How would DiD->DDO->verifiable claim interact with Legacy, Blockchains with Legacy- How would chains interact-DiD TLS 200 words- Status- Vipin Bharathan volunteer 6. Identity Models in Hyperledger DLTs- Each will need a write-up of about 200 words, focus on lifecycle.- and mapping to common standard- ( 1200) a. Indy b. Sawtooth-We have something here-needs review c. Fabric We have something here-needs review d. Burrow-We need a writeup e. Quilt -We need a writeup f. Iroha We have something here-needs review 7. Interface for an Identity Utility – Extract Core functions- This is Phase 2- after most of the above sections have been written. 8. Proposal & Project Plan for an implementation: Map to efforts in Indy- How can we implement 7. Above and what benefits will be bring-Intern work coming up etc. Also Phase 2 9. References: 10. Contributors:

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VipinB (Tue, 06 Mar 2018 20:59:09 GMT):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Contains a link to the document that includes the sections and brief descriptions to work on the Identity WG Paper. We also have an estimate of the length (in words). Please take a look and volunteer to do a section. We will discuss further during tomorrows call.

rjones (Tue, 06 Mar 2018 21:02:27 GMT):
VipinB

VipinB (Tue, 06 Mar 2018 22:30:44 GMT):
Just reposting with @here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Contains a link to the document that includes the sections and brief descriptions to work on the Identity WG Paper. We also have an estimate of the length (in words). Please take a look and volunteer to do a section. We will discuss further during tomorrows call.

VipinB (Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:15:47 GMT):
@here captured chats from zoom Captured chat below: From Bill to Everyone: 11:04 AM https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk From Giedre to Everyone: 11:18 AM What is the due date to write a paper volunteered? From Bill to Everyone: 11:19 AM which sections are filled with volunteers? Note: the googledoc was very active with attendees volunteering and filling in by section where they want to contribute. From Mike Brown (ATB) to Everyone: 11:35 AM https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit# From Bill to Everyone: 11:38 AM The link below is a reliability/complexity vs. use case initially drafted for TSC use 1-1/2 years ago. Bill and Jeremy jointly presented this document and a pptx link found at the base of the link. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XRthcv04nVQC6D0qe6TvYrTO1o5TeVKOqwLLltulkV0/edit just dropped the use case vs. reliability link above. Needs some updating but still relevant.

tkuhrt (Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:16:31 GMT):
Also located here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=13Mz5vOmcrq1nnnovkmd5XqlEjpV9f7-l

VipinB (Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:16:49 GMT):
Thanks to @cre8bidio & Bill Sparks for contribution and of course @tkuhrt

VipinB (Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:17:51 GMT):
@here Meeting minutes captured by Bill S Notes and chat capture from today's ID WG call. Not the greatest but certainly a reasonable capture. Discussion of Vision vs. Introduction- Vipin + Hart Sean was inserted as a place holder for the vision section pending his approval / agreement Identity blockchain vs. outside blockchain- understanding of what identity is- Vipin, Hart, Hugo discussed Hart volunteers for crypto descriptions in section 6 See the google doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk for the more complete volunteer list by section. Vipin- indicates word length not cast in stone. Can be less or more. Objective is to be able to complete in an afternoon. Vipin will contact folks from Indy, QLT, etc. that were not on the call today. Vipin suggested that all chat should also be dropped into RocketChat. He will drop these notes in. Note: I did not see where attendees were adding themselves to this weeks call list for capture purposes. I failed to screen capture the list from the call. Bill

VipinB (Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:18:11 GMT):
We will add these to the minutes later

tkuhrt (Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:21:42 GMT):
I also captured notes in the meeting minutes doc. Combination with those from Bill S would be great!

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VipinB (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 14:38:08 GMT):
@here About the paper-sections- Try doing with the suggested number of words, it is very important to keep references to what you have researched or read for future insertion into the references section. If the number of words is too restrictive, my suggestion would be to write it like you feel and then slim down while preserving the sense with other people's help. The main idea is to survey(briefly) what the idea/regulation/section means, then how is it significant for Blockchain implementation and how it will affect the interface(s) and implementation of an Identity Utility

VipinB (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 15:54:17 GMT):
@ashutosh_kumar not able to post directly to you for some strange reason

ashutosh_kumar (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 15:54:37 GMT):
Hmm.

VipinB (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 15:55:03 GMT):
So I cannot continue my chat with you since I am not able to answer your questions directly

ashutosh_kumar (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 15:55:21 GMT):
Does section/subsection need to tie back to Blockchain somehow ?

ashutosh_kumar (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 15:55:42 GMT):
e.g pros/cons etc.

VipinB (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 15:55:43 GMT):
So the section above is also directed to your question about the depth

VipinB (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 15:56:06 GMT):
Yes that is what I suggest "The main idea is to survey(briefly) what the idea/regulation/section means, then how is it significant for Blockchain implementation and how it will affect the interface(s) and implementation of an Identity Utility "

VipinB (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 15:56:40 GMT):
Yes if there are any contra indications we should say it too

VipinB (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 15:56:51 GMT):
Like "The right to be forgotten"

ashutosh_kumar (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 15:57:08 GMT):
OK. Will try.

VipinB (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 15:57:36 GMT):
Just give it a shot, then we can reconnect on the actual wording

VipinB (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 15:57:56 GMT):
Do as many as you can? Or just one? Whatever you are able.

VipinB (Fri, 09 Mar 2018 16:00:27 GMT):
The tough thing will be to condense

nage (Fri, 16 Mar 2018 00:54:46 GMT):
Another reminder that we have a discount code for The Internet Identity Workshop in Mountain View in April, if you’re interested in discussing blockchain identity with other folks who like to think about identity systems and issues, please join us https://iiw26.eventbrite.com?discount=HL_XXVI_20. (There will be a big contingent of Indy users and contributors there, in addition to folks from the W3C credentials community and many other decentralized and centralized identity systems).

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Jayamine (Fri, 16 Mar 2018 23:39:23 GMT):
I'm interested in Hyperledger Identity WG Onboarding and Auth project. I need some help to create the milestone plane for the project.

Jayamine (Fri, 16 Mar 2018 23:39:23 GMT):
I'm interested in Hyperledger Identity WG Onboarding and Auth project. I need some help to create the milestone plane for the project.

Jayamine (Fri, 16 Mar 2018 23:39:23 GMT):
I'm interested in Hyperledger Identity WG Onboarding and Auth project. I need some help to create the milestone plan for the project.

VipinB (Sat, 17 Mar 2018 00:07:49 GMT):
Don't

Jayamine (Sat, 17 Mar 2018 00:07:49 GMT):
I have a question about web browser based DID authentication application. Can it store the DID for the web application usage?

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VipinB (Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:12:02 GMT):
@here Call Tomorrow 03/21/2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) This is an open call, all are welcome. Agenda: Work on paper. We have arrived at the following working method collectively: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk includes the sections and brief descriptions to work on the Identity WG Paper. We also have an estimate of the length (in words). Please take a look and volunteer to do a section. References are important and please keep track of the works you reference as you go along. Once you feel your section is complete, please insert it into the paper (we can always refine this further). Current Volunteers (you know who you are), please insert your contributions. The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# We will review progress. I have finished and inserted section on PKI with references. I have also organised most of the sections with appropriate styles in the paper itself. Project proposal for Intern- Indy folks have put together for Identity work. Discuss if the mentors are on the call Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/505940931 Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16699006833,,505940931## or +16465588656,,505940931## Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 669 900 6833 or +1 646 558 8656 or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 505 940 931 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/zoomconference?m=VPMpZtK9AN_cGbr0DxAa-qfH1W-lxAo5

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nage (Tue, 20 Mar 2018 15:16:25 GMT):
@Jayamine I suggest reaching out to @kdenhartog, he will be able to point you to the most up to date DID Auth information

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drummondreed (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 01:28:13 GMT):
@VipinB I am heads down on two end-of-March deadlines (our DHS DKMS project and the second Sovrin white paper), so I won't be able to attend tomorrow. @nage should be able to fill in for me to report on Rebooting the Web of Trust. And the DID spec is coming along nicely and feeling pretty stable, though I won't be able to complete my action items on a few sections until early April.

nage (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 12:51:37 GMT):
I actually currently have a recurring conflict with the Identity WG meeting time and won’t be able to attend today on short notice. @kdenhartog could you give this report today?

VipinB (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 15:29:51 GMT):
Thanks @nage @drummondreed ...

drummondreed (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 15:30:45 GMT):
I'll ping @kdenhartog on Slack to see if he can do it.

VipinB (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 15:30:53 GMT):
Also could anyone report on the project for the interns

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VipinB (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 15:57:10 GMT):
@here resources for this meeting: Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit?usp=sharing The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk

VipinB (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 15:57:22 GMT):
Meeting to start in 3 minutes

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kdenhartog (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 16:06:13 GMT):
joining now

kdenhartog (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 16:17:33 GMT):
https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rebooting-the-web-of-trust-spring2018

kdenhartog (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 16:20:14 GMT):
https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rebooting-the-web-of-trust-spring2018/blob/master/draft-documents/did_auth_draft.md

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kdenhartog (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:07:29 GMT):
@Jayamine This is something that we haven't nailed down in any capacity yet. There's been great work in this area and we have some ideas around how it might work, but we want to make sure that many different solutions can emerge while remaining interoperable. Some examples to check out would be work done by Markus Sabadello and sponsored by the British Colombia government found here. https://github.com/bcgov/did-auth-extension There's also been other work created by Manu Sporny and the guys at OpenBazaar which can be found here https://w3c-ccg.github.io/credential-handler-api/

kdenhartog (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:08:14 GMT):
Also I'm looking for a demo for the credential handler work and will post that in here.

VipinB (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:08:57 GMT):
James?

cre8bidio (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:13:10 GMT):
hey Vipin

cre8bidio (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:13:56 GMT):
sorry this Linux ID isn't my name

cre8bidio (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:14:02 GMT):
@kdenhartog thanks for sharing those links. it was great to hear updates on RWoT and the DID Auth standard!

cre8bidio (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:14:02 GMT):
@kdenhartog thanks for sharing those links! it was great to hear updates on RWOT and the DID Auth standard

cre8bidio (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:15:59 GMT):
@kdenhartog thanks for sharing those links! it was great to hear updates on RWOT and the DID Auth standard

kdenhartog (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:30:16 GMT):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm3XBPB4cFY

kdenhartog (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:30:25 GMT):
that's the credential handler api demo

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cre8bidio (Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:48:40 GMT):
awesome!

VipinB (Thu, 22 Mar 2018 18:18:56 GMT):
@here I have completed a draft version of the status due March 29 at the tsc call. Please respond with comments before I publicize to tsc. I hope to do this next Monday the 26th. It is available at https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/tsc/wg-updates/identity-wg-2018-mar

mpiekarska (Thu, 22 Mar 2018 19:17:31 GMT):
@VipinB I think it looks great, is there anything you want to ask of TSC?

VipinB (Thu, 22 Mar 2018 21:52:48 GMT):
We need Identity folks from DLTs under incubation

drummondreed (Fri, 23 Mar 2018 00:12:55 GMT):
I looked over the report and it looks great.

kdenhartog (Fri, 23 Mar 2018 00:55:20 GMT):
For those in this channel who are interested in the Hyperledger Indy internship: please go take a look at the #indy channel to get some clarifications on the internship

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ricotmo (Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:00:05 GMT):
Hi all. When is your next meeting? The Wiki is out of date

VipinB (Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:01:31 GMT):
April 4th

VipinB (Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:09:29 GMT):
The wiki has been corrected. The cadence is every two weeks

tkuhrt (Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:51:08 GMT):
@ricotmo : You can also see the calendar for all Hyperledger community meetings here: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=linuxfoundation.org_nf9u64g9k9rvd9f8vp4vur23b0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=UTC

ricotmo (Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:24:12 GMT):
Thanks

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VipinB (Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:41:54 GMT):
@here I will be travelling on April 4th and will not be able to run the ID WG call. I will need a volunteer to run the call. Otherwise we can cancel the call, which will give us time to keep working on the paper. What is the sentiment among the people?

nage (Thu, 29 Mar 2018 20:17:03 GMT):
A good number of us will be at the Internet Identity Workshop at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View that day. We are having a meeting co-located at IIW starting 30 minutes after the Identity WG call normally starts (9:30-10:30 Pacific Time), we would love to have anyone from the Identity WG call join as well. Could that be an alternative to the normal call that day? @windley or @drummondreed may have more information on the Sovrin discussion that is being planned.

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VipinB (Sat, 31 Mar 2018 14:20:32 GMT):
Sean Bohan @Sean_Bohan has volunteered to run April 4th in which case we will have regular call. Just waiting for confirmation from him.

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VipinB (Tue, 03 Apr 2018 18:15:13 GMT):
@here Call Tomorrow 04/04/2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/505940931 Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16699006833,,505940931## or +16465588656,,505940931## Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 669 900 6833 or +1 646 558 8656 or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 505 940 931 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/zoomconference?m=VPMpZtK9AN_cGbr0DxAa-qfH1W-lxAo5 This is an open call, all are welcome.- Sean Bohan has volunteered to run the call; thanks Sean Agenda: Review work on the paper. Additions since last week: Vision section Aadhar section Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk includes the sections and brief descriptions to work on the Identity WG Paper. We also have an estimate of the length (in words). Please take a look and volunteer to do a section. References are important and please keep track of the works you reference as you go along. Once you feel your section is complete, please insert it into the paper (we can always refine this further). Current Volunteers (you know who you are), please insert your contributions. The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit#

drummondreed (Wed, 04 Apr 2018 06:24:43 GMT):
A quick reminder that several of us will be tied up at the Internet Identity Workshop in Mountain View tomorrow, so we won't be able to be on the call. However we'd be happy to give an update on the IIW goings-on on the following call.

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk

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VipinB (Tue, 17 Apr 2018 19:26:33 GMT):
@here Call 04/18/2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/505940931 Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16699006833,,505940931## or +16465588656,,505940931## Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 669 900 6833 or +1 646 558 8656 or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 505 940 931 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/zoomconference?m=VPMpZtK9AN_cGbr0DxAa-qfH1W-lxAo5 This is an open call, all are welcome.- Agenda: Short presentation from Drummond on IIW that he attended two weeks ago Review work on the paper. Additions since last week: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk includes the sections and brief descriptions to work on the Identity WG Paper. We also have an estimate of the length (in words). Please take a look and volunteer to do a section. References are important and please keep track of the works you reference as you go along. Once you feel your section is complete, please insert it into the paper (we can always refine this further). Current Volunteers (you know who you are), please insert your contributions. The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit#

drummondreed (Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:23:04 GMT):
Vipin et al: here's the link to the presentation by Jan Camenisch to the W3C Credentials Community Group yesterday on ZKLang, the language they are developing to simplify and standardize how developers can easily request zero-knowledge proofs: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/meetings/blob/gh-pages/2018-04-17/zklang.ccg-presentation.2018.04.17.pdf

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VipinB (Wed, 02 May 2018 10:13:06 GMT):
@here Call 04/18/2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- Agenda: Review work on the paper. Additions since last week: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk includes the sections and brief descriptions to work on the Identity WG Paper. We also have an estimate of the length (in words). Please take a look and volunteer to do a section. References are important and please keep track of the works you reference as you go along. Once you feel your section is complete, please insert it into the paper (we can always refine this further). Current Volunteers (you know who you are), please insert your contributions. The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit#

VipinB (Wed, 02 May 2018 10:13:06 GMT):
@here Call 04/18/2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- Agenda: Review work on the paper. The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Additions since last week: Did some work on Introduction- Vipin Bharathan MiFID 2 Giedre Garbinciute Aadhar - Nitin Agarwal - talked about changes to Aadhar section. Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk includes the sections and brief descriptions to work on the Identity WG Paper. We also have an estimate of the length (in words). Please take a look and volunteer to do a section. References are important and please keep track of the works you reference as you go along. Once you feel your section is complete, please insert it into the paper (we can always refine this further). Current Volunteers (you know who you are), please insert your contributions.

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@here Call May 02, 2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Please note changed zoom link Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- Agenda: Review work on the paper. The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Additions since last week: Did some work on Introduction- Vipin Bharathan MiFID 2 Giedre Garbinciute Aadhar - Nitin Agarwal - talked about changes to Aadhar section. Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk includes the sections and brief descriptions to work on the Identity WG Paper. We also have an estimate of the length (in words). Please take a look and volunteer to do a section. References are important and please keep track of the works you reference as you go along. Once you feel your section is complete, please insert it into the paper (we can always refine this further). Current Volunteers (you know who you are), please insert your contributions.

VipinB (Wed, 02 May 2018 10:13:06 GMT):
@here Call May 02, 2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Please note changed zoom link Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- Agenda: Review work on the paper. The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Additions since last week: Did some work on Introduction- Vipin Bharathan MiFID 2 Giedre Garbinciute Aadhar - Nitin Agarwal - talked about changes to Aadhar section. Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk includes the sections and brief descriptions to work on the Identity WG Paper. We also have an estimate of the length (in words). Please take a look and volunteer to do a section. References are important and please keep track of the works you reference as you go along. Once you feel your section is complete, please insert it into the paper (we can always refine this further). Current Volunteers (you know who you are), please insert your contributions.

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samadsajanlal (Thu, 03 May 2018 15:50:16 GMT):
hi everyone, joining here as we're looking at indy/sovrin for a project

mboyd (Thu, 03 May 2018 16:31:50 GMT):
Welcome, @samadsajanlal! We might be able to point to you relevant resources if you'd like to tell us more about your project

samadsajanlal (Thu, 03 May 2018 21:52:31 GMT):
@mboyd right now I'm just trying to get a node up and running on a set of virtual machines running on openstack

samadsajanlal (Thu, 03 May 2018 21:52:51 GMT):
also trying to keep the environment private for now

samadsajanlal (Thu, 03 May 2018 21:53:10 GMT):
after battling w/ the gihub repos i found this doc which has allowed me some extra progress

samadsajanlal (Thu, 03 May 2018 21:53:11 GMT):
https://github.com/hyperledger/indy-node/blob/master/docs/start-nodes.md

samadsajanlal (Thu, 03 May 2018 21:53:50 GMT):
but now i face this issue... I changed the network's name to Alpha in the py file in /etc/indy

samadsajanlal (Thu, 03 May 2018 21:53:53 GMT):
```~/indy-node/scripts$ sudo sh setupEnvironment.sh Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/generate_indy_pool_transactions", line 18, in TestNetworkSetup.bootstrapTestNodes(getConfig(), portsStart, nodeParamsFileName, File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/indy_common/config_util.py", line 31, in getConfig CONFIG = _getConfig(PlenumConfig, general_config_dir, user_config_dir) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/indy_common/config_util.py", line 24, in _getConfig raise ex File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/indy_common/config_util.py", line 21, in _getConfig user_config_dir=user_config_dir) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/plenum/common/config_util.py", line 47, in extend_with_default_external_config extend_with_external_config(extendee, (extendee.GENERAL_CONFIG_DIR, extendee.GENERAL_CONFIG_FILE)) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/plenum/common/config_util.py", line 32, in extend_with_external_config config = getInstalledConfig(*extender) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/plenum/common/config_util.py", line 26, in getInstalledConfig spec.loader.exec_module(config) File "", line 665, in exec_module File "", line 222, in _call_with_frames_removed File "/etc/indy/indy_config.py", line 2, in NETWORK_NAME = Alpha NameError: name 'Alpha' is not defined Environment setup complete ```

samadsajanlal (Thu, 03 May 2018 21:54:25 GMT):
if you have any guidelines how i can run each node on a VM on openstack instead of using vagrant/docker that would be much appreciated

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VipinB (Fri, 04 May 2018 18:09:32 GMT):
There is also a channel named #indy

mboyd (Fri, 04 May 2018 21:22:53 GMT):
@samadsajanlal check out the #indy, #indy-sdk, and #indy-node for more chat related resources.

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hartm (Wed, 16 May 2018 02:07:44 GMT):
Are we having a meeting tomorrow? I imagine a big portion of the usual crowd will be at Consensus.

VipinB (Wed, 16 May 2018 13:41:31 GMT):
We will have the meeting.

VipinB (Wed, 16 May 2018 13:42:01 GMT):
Are you at Consensus @hartm?

VipinB (Wed, 16 May 2018 13:59:51 GMT):
@here Call May 06, 2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Please note changed zoom link Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- Agenda: Review work on the paper. The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Additions since last week: Switched Intro to Core Concepts and expanded intro as discussed in last meeting- Vipin Bharathan MiFID 2 Giedre Garbinciute- Aadhar - Nitin Agarwal - talked about changes to Aadhar section. Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk includes the sections and brief descriptions to work on the Identity WG Paper. We also have an estimate of the length (in words). Please take a look and volunteer to do a section. References are important and please keep track of the works you reference as you go along. Once you feel your section is complete, please insert it into the paper (we can always refine this further). Current Volunteers (you know who you are), please insert your contributions.

VipinB (Wed, 16 May 2018 13:59:51 GMT):
@here Call May 06, 2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Please note changed zoom link Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- Agenda: Review work on the paper. The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Additions since last week: Switched Intro to Core Concepts and expanded intro as discussed in last meeting- Vipin Bharathan MiFID 2 Giedre Garbinciute-We will review Aadhar - Nitin Agarwal - talked about changes to Aadhar section. We will revisit if Nitin on deck Look through comments- Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk includes the sections and brief descriptions to work on the Identity WG Paper. We also have an estimate of the length (in words). Please take a look and volunteer to do a section. References are important and please keep track of the works you reference as you go along. Once you feel your section is complete, please insert it into the paper (we can always refine this further). Current Volunteers (you know who you are), please insert your contributions.

VipinB (Wed, 16 May 2018 13:59:51 GMT):
@here Call May 16, 2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Please note changed zoom link Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- Agenda: Review work on the paper. The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Additions since last week: Switched Intro to Core Concepts and expanded intro as discussed in last meeting- Vipin Bharathan MiFID 2 Giedre Garbinciute-We will review Aadhar - Nitin Agarwal - talked about changes to Aadhar section. We will revisit if Nitin on deck Look through comments- Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk includes the sections and brief descriptions to work on the Identity WG Paper. We also have an estimate of the length (in words). Please take a look and volunteer to do a section. References are important and please keep track of the works you reference as you go along. Once you feel your section is complete, please insert it into the paper (we can always refine this further). Current Volunteers (you know who you are), please insert your contributions.

VipinB (Wed, 16 May 2018 15:42:45 GMT):
@here Call May 16, 2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Please note changed zoom link Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- Agenda: Review work on the paper. The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Additions since last week: Switched Intro to Core Concepts and expanded intro as discussed in last meeting- Vipin Bharathan MiFID 2 Giedre Garbinciute-We will review Aadhar - Nitin Agarwal - talked about changes to Aadhar section. We will revisit if Nitin on deck Look through comments- We have some comments added just now from Bill Sparks and @AlexanderGutierrez (I think) Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk includes the sections and brief descriptions to work on the Identity WG Paper. We also have an estimate of the length (in words). Please take a look and volunteer to do a section. References are important and please keep track of the works you reference as you go along. Once you feel your section is complete, please insert it into the paper (we can always refine this further). Current Volunteers (you know who you are), please insert your contributions.

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mpiekarska (Wed, 23 May 2018 14:35:19 GMT):
Dear Identity WG, we are about to publish the GDPR whitepaper through Rebooting Web of Trust. It wont be a frozen copy but an official one. I would encourage you to give it a read-through and EDIT directly.

mpiekarska (Wed, 23 May 2018 14:35:20 GMT):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wnRYOZrGZS6h_-PnJRaq1pAc35GrfGUZcXh46sTHdFQ/edit?ts=5b034eb3#

marksta (Wed, 23 May 2018 15:22:50 GMT):
As I'm not part of the wg (yet?), I'll post my comments here. :) Thank you for tackling this crucial subject. For me the most delicate point is how to handle the erasure. While there's an outline in the whitepaper about the possible blockchain-based process of a erasure request, the topic of how to implement an erasure within the current hyperledger space seems to be left out (on purpose?). Maybe I just missunderstood something? Another tought: If Alice requests all her data to be deleted, the request itself should be deleted as well and can not be permanently stored in a blockchain for anyone (even an auditor) to be seen, shouldn't it?

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RodrigoAcosta (Wed, 23 May 2018 19:20:36 GMT):
Hi all, I believe your next meeting is on Wednesday 30th so I will join per @VipinB 's invitation. However, I would like to comment my problem in advance. I'm trying to integrate main ETH with Fabric in a similar way as Parity is doing using Bridge smart contract between Main and Private ethereum. In Parity, when an account wants to send back to main ethereum a token, the private nodes that form the blockchain sign a message and submits the collection of signatures with the message to a smart contract in main ETH. If the signatures are from predefined ETH address (or their public keys), then frozen tokens in main Ethereum are recovered back. I'm following a similar approach, in which I'm sending the signature of endorsing peers and using the payload of a predefined transaction as the message. The problem is that each time the endorsing peers sign the payload, they are generating a different signature from a different private key. This makes it impossible to validate in main ethereum if the signatures is from a predefined address. I believe this is because of the Identity Mixer imlementation in fabric, as per documentation I see: ”Signing Transactions (Presentation). When a client (or possibly a peer) needs to sign a transaction, it generates a fresh unlinkable presentation token, which: 1) signs the transaction content, 2) proves a possession of a valid ECert issued by the CA, 3) discloses the attributes that are required by the access control policy for the transaction. “ Does anybody can help me figure out if this is possible to do?

manu (Wed, 23 May 2018 19:25:02 GMT):
pretty sure its unrelated to idemix, the default way of signing is with ecdsa and fixed public keys, and idemix isn't even in the release yet.

RodrigoAcosta (Wed, 23 May 2018 20:34:31 GMT):
mm, any idea why I'm getting different signatures of the same message then? I'm using JAVA sdk. But from a successful response of a chaincode invocation, I do byte[] message = response.getProposalResponse().getResponse().getPayload().toByteArray(); byte[] signature = response.getProposalResponse().getEndorsement().getSignature().toByteArray(); and get different signatures each time for the same message.

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VipinB (Thu, 24 May 2018 15:16:54 GMT):
Let us also post this on #fabric-ca @RodrigoAcosta. As far as the #identity-wg goes we have a broader interest in your project as it concerns interoperability in the HL space (Fabric to Ethereum can be thought of as that) and how Identity plays an important role in this space.

acostarodrigo (Fri, 25 May 2018 01:29:29 GMT):
@VipinB ok, looks like I'm not getting much help on #frabric-ca, do you know someone I can ping for this?

drummondreed (Wed, 30 May 2018 07:23:43 GMT):
@VipinB Just a note that I'm in a CULedger meeting with a major financial network tomorrow so I won't be able to attend the Identity Working Group meeting. My apologies.

VipinB (Wed, 30 May 2018 11:16:21 GMT):
Np, you can tell us all about it next time @drummondreed

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VipinB (Wed, 30 May 2018 15:30:28 GMT):
@here Call May 30, 2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Continue discussion on paper progress Use cases Verifiable Claims Any other business GDPR go live- implications

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VipinB (Wed, 13 Jun 2018 13:54:32 GMT):
@here Call June 13, 2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Anti-Trust Progress Report https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/tsc/wg-updates/identity-wg-2018-jun Continue discussion on paper progress

toddinpal (Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:49:02 GMT):
Sorry, can't make today's call.

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abraham (Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:57:55 GMT):
this is really interested group, i will spend more time here. had a great time. if possible, we can start the meeting 1 hour earlier.

Sean_Bohan (Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:58:42 GMT):
welcome Abraham

VipinB (Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:03:56 GMT):
Great call all. Thanks for your contributions...

ashutosh_kumar (Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:34:40 GMT):
Sorry , I missed the call.

VipinB (Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:44:49 GMT):
@szewong Peruvian economist Hernando DeSoto who can be a polarizing figure due to singular focus on land rights was involved in Some blockchain projects https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2017/02/07/the-first-government-to-secure-land-titles-on-the-bitcoin-blockchain-expands-project/#68af4e014dcd

VipinB (Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:46:07 GMT):
This includes the project in Honduras and recently in the republic Georgia

VipinB (Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:49:18 GMT):
@here see invite for demo [ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/indy?msg=Ke4y8KZyfcqnyx4nM)

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szewong (Sat, 16 Jun 2018 18:34:24 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=hqSkNEr3X7kdetiFk) @VipinB Yes DeSoto is the defacto leader in this space. I believe within a couple decades, all land titles will be managed in blockchain. While government sponsored projects have been the standard way for pushing title registration, I believe blockchain has the power to create a bottom-up approach. Thereby allowing poorer countries to leapfrog ahead.

VipinB (Sun, 17 Jun 2018 22:14:41 GMT):
@szewong DeSoto is a polarizing figure, since analysis of informal title in certain economies may not be straightforward, due to hijacking of legal and enforcement structures, so just granting land rights may not be enough...since many of that will end up with people who do not use or occupy the land.

szewong (Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:43:27 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=vpySuwfF8BJdQXqzg) @VipinB Our approach is based on detailed on-the-ground survey and bottom-up approach. Just like bitcoin created a currency without the backing of any authority, we are trying to organize land-right village-by-village.

szewong (Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:44:31 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=hSXZk8oHa8Jb3DchC) Can you tell me more how DeSoto is polarizing? All I know is that he is big name and when he speaks, people listen.

VipinB (Tue, 19 Jun 2018 11:24:19 GMT):
@szewong in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hernando_de_Soto_Polar Please look at the Criticism and responses section which has a fairly comprehensive list.

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VipinB (Mon, 25 Jun 2018 12:59:35 GMT):
This weeks Identity WG meeting is cancelled, due to multiple conflicts; Amsterdam Hackfest and others. In the meantime I will post updates on the Identity WG mailing list & elsewhere of our ongoing work on the paper and other interesting updates.

VipinB (Mon, 25 Jun 2018 12:59:35 GMT):
@here This weeks Identity WG meeting is cancelled, due to multiple conflicts; Amsterdam Hackfest and others. In the meantime I will post updates on the Identity WG mailing list & elsewhere of our ongoing work on the paper and other interesting updates.

drummondreed (Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:00:29 GMT):
Thanks for the notice, Vipin.

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aatkddny (Wed, 27 Jun 2018 14:25:58 GMT):
is this the correct group for a - hopefully simple - question about the identity mixer in the msp?

VipinB (Thu, 28 Jun 2018 13:04:46 GMT):
@aatkddny please ask in #fabric-ca

aatkddny (Thu, 28 Jun 2018 13:08:55 GMT):
@VipinB found it and asked. thanks for the response.

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VipinB (Wed, 11 Jul 2018 11:58:18 GMT):
@here This weeks Identity WG call is at 12 noon. Agenda to be posted here and on mailing list soon.

VipinB (Wed, 11 Jul 2018 15:31:09 GMT):
@here Call Today (July 11), 2018 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Report from Amsterdam (from anyone who attended the hackfest) Discuss Kaliya Young's "domains of Identity", especially if she shows up- look at how this can help us sharpen our thinking in terms of the ID WG and Blockchain Identity in particular. You can get it here Https://www.identitywoman.net/domains-of-identity Does Carpenter vs. the US have any bearing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpenter_v._United_States All other business. Continue discussion on paper progress

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Mari499 (Fri, 13 Jul 2018 20:37:43 GMT):
@VipinB My name is Marissa and I'm leading the patient subgroup for the Healthcare WG. We are starting to think about a build that would connect patient data across silos, but we've had a lot of questions come up regarding the identity aspects of the use case. Once we have our case built out, would you be willing to join one of our calls to discuss the identity aspects of the work?

VipinB (Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:26:08 GMT):
Sure @Mari499 ! We also have a section of paper regarding use cases, and the healthcare use case is prominent among them. Could you collaborate and review this. When are your meetings? There are others in the Identity WG who are experts in the Healthcare field; Iwill be sure to point them in your direction. Do you have any description of how the Patient subgroup differs from the Healthcare WG?

Mari499 (Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:56:51 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=vT7gntQJtKLH6BsC3) @VipinB @VipinB - Thanks for your response. I would be happy to send your use case section out to the subgroup for review. The patient subgroup meets every 2 weeks on Fridays at 9am PST. Our next meeting is this Friday, 7/20. Regarding how we are defining the HCWG patient subgroup - our primary focus right now is to build out a demo for a patient-centered blockchain solution. The way that I see it is that the subgroups are more focused on the tactical implementation vs larger thought leadership, but that is just my view. I don't think we'd be ready for you to join our call this week, but what about August 3rd?

VipinB (Tue, 17 Jul 2018 16:01:51 GMT):
@Mari499 will do. should I mark my calendar for Aug 3rd- send me your burning questions re Identity so that I can prepare. What Blockchain will you build your HC use case on? HL Fabric? HL Iroha? HL Sawtooth?

VipinB (Tue, 17 Jul 2018 16:02:22 GMT):
Or will you use Indy for the Identity solution and hook into this from your final solution.

Mari499 (Wed, 18 Jul 2018 04:05:42 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=LrqtYXTbLXfcML5sa) @VipinB Yes, please do mark your calendar for the 3rd. I will get you questions a week before. I am confirming our technology solution this week with the group, so I will get back to you.

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VipinB (Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:12:31 GMT):
@here, We will have a call of the Identity WG today July 25th 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Continue discussion on paper progress- key areas where work has been done: Introduction, Vision, eIDAS and eID, PKI, Identity warriors (DiF) Electors for TSC: Please look at list below and see whether your name should be included if it is missing. Let me know what meetings you attended and what you contributed. Stephane Mouy has contributed his findings on the European eID and KYC initiative, we will absorb some of these findings into our paper. I have shared this on https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rzpayZs8VsuZhiaIP8-Jn-cq2yFemJ8WV9_Q67fyNV0/edit?usp=sharing currently available for view only Domains of Identity Https://www.identitywoman.net/domains-of-identity by Kaliya Young All other business. Best, Vipin

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VipinB (Wed, 01 Aug 2018 15:07:33 GMT):
@here It has been noticed that the IDWG document was changed in the recent days. Please do not edit this document directly with irrelevant material, in the last few days (July 29, 30, 31 2018 ) the document has been edited and sections replaced with personal data. The same effect can be achieved by creating a separate document and sharing with others. The same person had closed several resolved comments as well as reopened others. This may be an inadvertent action. We want people to collaborate openly; not delete material that has been created with much effort. So until we resolve these issues we will keep the content protected. I am reverting the content back to before these changes. You can still contribute by emailing content to the mailing list. I will ensure that this with correct attribution still gets into the document. People with links can comment, but not edit the document.

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VipinB (Wed, 08 Aug 2018 13:44:23 GMT):
We will have a call of the Identity WG today August 8th 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Continue discussion on paper progress- key areas where work has been done: SAML, LDAP, Oauth2.0, OpenID Electors for TSC: Please look at list link published on #tsc. Domains of Identity Https://www.identitywoman.net/domains-of-identity by Kaliya Young All other business. Best, Vipin

VipinB (Wed, 08 Aug 2018 13:44:23 GMT):
We will have a call of the Identity WG today August 8th 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Caution on editing paper... Electors for TSC: Please look at list link published on #tsc. Continue discussion on paper progress- key areas where work has been done: SAML, LDAP, Oauth2.0, OpenID Next steps are SSI, sharpen up PKI, DPKI and x.500 and relate to LDAP, Fabric CA-relationship to legacy Appeal to Quilt, Iroha, Sawtooth,Indy to create material related to their DLTs and Identity Will also add material on IDoT as suggested. Domains of Identity Https://www.identitywoman.net/domains-of-identity by Kaliya Young All other business.

drummondreed (Wed, 08 Aug 2018 15:54:04 GMT):
@VipinB I again have to offer regrets for today's meeting as I'm attending the CULedger Advisory Council meeting in Chicago today. But please pass this on to the Identity WG: *This entire meeting is about a global digital credential (MyCUID) based on Hyperledger Indy and Sovrin*. So it is HAPPENING.

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VipinB (Wed, 08 Aug 2018 16:18:05 GMT):
Kaliyas paper condensed to slideshare

VipinB (Wed, 08 Aug 2018 16:18:13 GMT):
https://www.slideshare.net/Kaliya/domains-of-identity

havannavar (Wed, 08 Aug 2018 16:30:48 GMT):
Vipin, I have to drop-off. I will look at the paper later tonight to see if there are updates that need my attention.

havannavar (Wed, 08 Aug 2018 16:30:53 GMT):
-Naveen

VipinB (Wed, 08 Aug 2018 17:02:31 GMT):
~end of call

VipinB (Wed, 08 Aug 2018 17:02:56 GMT):
start of call was around 12:04 EST

ashutosh_kumar (Wed, 08 Aug 2018 19:24:21 GMT):
@VipinB , sorry to miss the call today.

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VipinB (Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:48:17 GMT):
@here Thanks for all contributions during and after the call. In particular Kaliya Young (not a member of the RC channel) has been active in the editing suggesting multiple edits as well as @havannavar (-Naveen H) has contributed to several sections...We will be working hard in the next few weeks to bring the paper home. Please pitch in : Add your names to meeting minutes. The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit#

VipinB (Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:48:17 GMT):
@here Thanks for all contributions during and after the call. In particular Kaliya Young (not a member of the RC channel) has been active in the editing suggesting multiple edits as well as @havannavar (-Naveen H) has contributed to several sections...We will be working hard in the next few weeks to bring the paper home. Please pitch in references The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit#

havannavar (Mon, 13 Aug 2018 16:05:40 GMT):
Hi @VipinB - I put a comment for the LDAP section as well.

havannavar (Mon, 13 Aug 2018 16:06:44 GMT):
let me know if you have any inputs.

VipinB (Mon, 13 Aug 2018 16:08:42 GMT):
Sure ...

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VipinB (Wed, 22 Aug 2018 15:43:33 GMT):
@here We have a call of the Identity WG today August 22th 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Electors for TSC: Did you get the link. Continue discussion on paper progress- LDAP, Oauth2.0, OpenID, many corrections and clarifications Next steps are SSI, all DLTs under hyperledger describe their Identity solution, Iroha and Sawtoooth targeted for next session. Will also add material on IDoT as suggested. All other business.

drummondreed (Wed, 22 Aug 2018 15:58:13 GMT):
Vipin, I can join for the first 15 minutes of today's call.

VipinB (Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:02:53 GMT):
~~ End of meeting ~~~

VipinB (Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:03:53 GMT):
@szewong please add a section to the paper.

szewong (Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:05:44 GMT):
So @VipinB, further my point from the call, I'd like to define a couple high-level problems that Blockchain-based identity are trying to solve. Let me know if I should do that. Love to participate on the paper any way I can.

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VipinB (Tue, 04 Sep 2018 19:50:08 GMT):
@here We have a call of the Identity WG tomorrow Sept 5th 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust IBANP proposal - presentation by IBANP team- Continue discussion on paper progress- Many corrections and clarifications Thanks to Sze Wong and Eric Bourdin and many others Next steps are SSI, Iroha and Sawtoooth. Add material on IDoT as suggested. All other business.

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VipinB (Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:08:05 GMT):
~start of meeting ~~

VipinB (Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:08:05 GMT):
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ start of meeting

VipinB (Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:08:09 GMT):
https://github.com/FedeCune/hyperledger-labs.github.io/blob/33a78889f43f63d5e7c4bf9ef5f9b89e93de181b/ibanportabilityproject.md

VipinB (Wed, 05 Sep 2018 17:01:57 GMT):
End of meeting ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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VipinB (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:15:43 GMT):
@here We have a call of the Identity WG today Sept 19th 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Continue discussion on paper progress- Thanks to Sze Wong & Nitin Agarwal and many others Next steps are SSI, Iroha and Sawtoooth-. Add material on IDoT as suggested. All other business.

VipinB (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:15:43 GMT):
@here We have a call of the Identity WG today Sept 19th 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Continue discussion on paper progress- Thanks to Sze Wong & Nitin Agarwal and many others Next steps are SSI, Iroha and Sawtoooth- work on Sawtooth-NEXT. Add material on IDoT as suggested. All other business.

VipinB (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:15:43 GMT):
@here We have a call of the Identity WG today Sept 19th 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Hackfest - Montreal- Agenda for Identity WG- develop one- aims paper, We will have a call from the hackfest Review questions from Sze Wong Continue discussion on paper progress- Thanks to Sze Wong & Nitin Agarwal and many others Next steps are SSI, Iroha and Sawtoooth- work on Sawtooth-NEXT. Add material on IDoT as suggested. All other business.

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VipinB (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:18:14 GMT):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pYhoy5CxgSyXclIsQs-W8yaIcndjfD-qPWvJmpAehP0/edit - Hackfest

canadaduane (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:55:14 GMT):
Some examples of a few of these other “decentralized identity” solutions that are in the negative claims space:

canadaduane (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:55:20 GMT):
https://www.shyft.network/solution


canadaduane (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:55:23 GMT):
https://www.velix.id/

canadaduane (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:55:24 GMT):

https://www.bridgeprotocol.io/

canadaduane (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:58:04 GMT):
I think this all relates to a recent question in the sovrin forum as well: https://forum.sovrin.org/t/how-to-guarantee-a-seed-document-is-associated-with-single-identity/893

VipinB (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:03:26 GMT):
Thanks @canadaduane

canadaduane (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:03:29 GMT):
As an aside: The way I encountered this is through a request to our community members to tell us about decentralized identity solutions that should be on our radar (at Mainframe). So it's interesting to me that there is a perception out there that eKYC and reputation and credit ratings is what people think are "identity" solutions, rather than SSI like Sovrin and uPort.

canadaduane (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:03:29 GMT):
As an aside: The way I encountered these is through a request to our community members to tell us about decentralized identity solutions that should be on our radar (at Mainframe). So it's interesting to me that there is a perception out there that eKYC and reputation and credit ratings is what people think are "identity" solutions, rather than SSI like Sovrin and uPort.

canadaduane (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:04:30 GMT):
There is even some discussion in the ERC-725 (ethereum on-chain identity proposal) about claims and how to attach negative claims to people if they can just create their own, new identities all of the time.

canadaduane (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:04:54 GMT):
It seems there is a natural tension between SSI and more centralized reputation systems.

canadaduane (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:05:02 GMT):
"can we have it all?" :)

szewong (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:06:23 GMT):
Questions: Hi, We, the Hyperledger Identity working group, is putting together a white-paper about the Digital Identity on blockchains. The target audience of this white paper are people who are just getting into the Identity world. I would like to ask the following question with regard to : Identity based solutions such as Indy and uPort: 1. What is the key differentiator of your Did/DDO solution? 2. How is privacy handled? Where does PII reside in your solution and how is it protected? From correlation attacks? 3. How do you address the “Username/Password” issue? Meaning people have to maintain too many passwords and the fact that passwords are not secure. 4. How do you address interoperability with existing identity systems (LDAP and Active Directory)? 5. What are the special features that make your solution fit well within a blockchain context? Other DLTs: Fabric, Sawtooth, Iroha, Quilt, Burrow 1. How does your solution handle identity? 2. How do you address the “Username/Password” issue? Meaning people have to maintain too many passwords and the fact that passwords are not secure. 3. Does your solution address Self Sovereign Identity? If so, how? 4. Does your solution address Distributed Identity? If so, how?

szewong (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:07:05 GMT):
Hi all, just want to post the questions here. Please help get answers from different groups. I am willing to do the work if you will tell me where to go. Thanks.

szewong (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:07:56 GMT):
@canadaduane Can you explain a little bit about what you are looking from in terms of Identity?

szewong (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:08:03 GMT):
From the perspective of Mainframe?

canadaduane (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:12:00 GMT):
Yes, so we're building decentralized identity into our desktop app, which is a "launcher" for decentralized apps custom-built to our platform's specs. The goal is to make it much easier for developers to create decentralized apps than it is today; if we bundle several services together, like decentralized identity, decentralized file storage, decentralized (anonymous) communications, etc. then it will draw more companies and developers to make their apps decentralized. So imagine a decentralized Facebook, or a decentralized Reddit, or decentralized Telegram--each of these are potential "dApps" on the Mainframe platform.

canadaduane (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:14:43 GMT):
The goal of identity in this Launcher would be several: 1. to create a "single-sign on" experience (so you don't have to log in to each dApp separately), 2. to create an environment where you can keep your community affiliations & credentials no matter what dApp you're using (even outside our platform), and 3. to make it easy to interact across many different blockchains, networks, services, etc.

canadaduane (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:19:27 GMT):
Lately we've been discussing another interesting "wish-list" item which is to make it so dApp developers never have to create a CAPTCHA again--i.e. wouldn't it be nice if there were a "Certified Human" credential that people could take with them. This is certainly possible within the SSI & verifiable credentials capabilities. But then there is a little trouble for the verifier--how do we know someone isn't creating multiple identities and then certifying each of them as Human? The verifier would need to create some kind of centralized list to make sure that John Doe hasn't signed up multiple times. Otherwise, "Certified Human" would mean nothing, because a single person could create multiple identities, get them each certified, and then hand them over to bots.

VipinB (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:24:49 GMT):
@canadaduane what is the DLT you are building on? Looks like Ethereum with talk of dApps. Does it even involve Blockchain... Interesting parallel with Indy/Sovrin as they have a concept of Agents that sit higher on the stack.

VipinB (Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:25:35 GMT):
And canadian govt app for wallets. I am guessing you know about this already

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canadaduane (Fri, 21 Sep 2018 14:03:41 GMT):
Ethereum for now, yes, although we intend to be a polyglot system in the future.

canadaduane (Fri, 21 Sep 2018 14:04:28 GMT):
We've looked into uPort but have some concerns around correlatable credentials.

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OlgaLarsen (Fri, 21 Sep 2018 18:47:38 GMT):
Hey guys, are there any discussions on Privacy and GDPR? Any documents available? Thx.

canadaduane (Fri, 21 Sep 2018 20:31:15 GMT):
I know there's been some difficulty finding the right terminology for "verifiable claims". We had an interesting internal discussion and have found "character claims" to be an interesting middle ground. "character" can mean both "the essence of who you are" as well as "a character in a play" or a costume that you put on. It spans both self-claims as well as claims made by others about you. It also moves the word "claim" away from the "insurance" connotation and safely toward the "he-says-she-says" meaning.

canadaduane (Fri, 21 Sep 2018 20:31:15 GMT):
I know there's been some difficulty finding the right terminology for "verifiable claims". We had an internal discussion and have found "character claims" to be an interesting middle ground. "character" can mean both "the essence of who you are" as well as "a character in a play" or a costume that you put on. It spans both self-claims as well as claims made by others about you. It also moves the word "claim" away from the "insurance" connotation and safely toward the "he-says-she-says" meaning.

canadaduane (Fri, 21 Sep 2018 20:33:36 GMT):
We've found "credentials" to be too constraining an English word for our use-case, where self-claims are the primary initial capability of our browser (within the context of identity). For instance, the answer to "what is your name?" is not safely within the normal use of "credential".

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jljordan_bcgov (Sun, 23 Sep 2018 04:15:09 GMT):
A zero knowledge proof of a verifiable credential issued by a government identity service would be a decent “human” test

canadaduane (Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:21:36 GMT):
Yes, that makes the most sense when SSI is implemented at scale.

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szewong (Thu, 27 Sep 2018 19:17:44 GMT):
@VipinB Should we get our Working Group onto the Hackfest agenda? I see the Architecture Working group on it.

VipinB (Thu, 27 Sep 2018 19:44:22 GMT):
I will try- the call is at a specific time

VipinB (Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:08:43 GMT):
I have put in the call.

VipinB (Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:09:07 GMT):
Maybe I will add an item on the fourth morning to discuss the paper further.

szewong (Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:09:57 GMT):
Sure. My flight on Thursday is at 3:30pm. Will stay till 1pm.

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VipinB (Wed, 03 Oct 2018 14:32:20 GMT):
@here Call of the Identity WG today October 3rd 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below). We are calling in from the the Montreal hackfest. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Hackfest - Review questions from Sze Wong Continue discussion on paper progress- Thanks to Sze Wong & Nitin Agarwal and many others Next steps are SSI, Iroha and Sawtoooth- work on Sawtooth-NEXT. Add material on IDoT as suggested. All other business.

VipinB (Wed, 03 Oct 2018 14:32:20 GMT):
@here Call of the Identity WG today October 3rd 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below). We are calling in from the the Montreal hackfest. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call, all are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Hackfest - Discuss Iroha Identity model and have a draft write-up Cross WG efforts as well as collaboration with EEA Review questions from Sze Wong Add material on IDoT as suggested. All other business.

VipinB (Wed, 03 Oct 2018 14:39:20 GMT):
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel7/8376143/8377808/08377927.pdf - Iroha paper

brentzundel (Wed, 03 Oct 2018 15:36:20 GMT):
Is there a non-paywall version of that paper?

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phaniac (Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:13:20 GMT):
Hello everyone. I would like to join and hope to contribute.

phaniac (Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:14:18 GMT):
@brentzundel not in arxiv

phaniac (Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:57:04 GMT):
That was very interesting. I couldn't speak without too much interference due to lack of mike. I hope to contribute to the thought-process, docs and code. Identity seems fundamental - the process of identification, authentication, auth, maintaining id state and revocation.

phaniac (Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:57:36 GMT):
Thanks for sharing @Bogdan

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szewong (Thu, 04 Oct 2018 15:34:53 GMT):
Hi all, we had a session on the whitepaper in Montreal. Here is the notes that I took. Enjoy.

szewong (Thu, 04 Oct 2018 15:34:55 GMT):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BEKNSWwBQfyI-fiUBHxBugwERnC_44fdtBW2SO5fZW8/edit?usp=sharing

phaniac (Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:41:17 GMT):
are we having a call today?

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nage (Thu, 04 Oct 2018 18:27:39 GMT):
For anyone who is interested in DIDs please consider supporting the creation of the W3C working group by answering this brief survey https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeejJnQGgBJ_foVJlpZUSlfvVsbSwnxEm0XFoucr4j4ZP2oYg/viewform

VipinB (Fri, 05 Oct 2018 13:54:00 GMT):
@here It was great to hang at the hackfest and to get involved in all matters related to the IDWG. Also for the involvement in other talks and writeups. Thanks @szewong for the notes and for the help in organizing.

VipinB (Fri, 05 Oct 2018 13:59:48 GMT):
@nage thanks for the link

VipinB (Fri, 05 Oct 2018 14:38:40 GMT):
@phaniac we have calls every other week Wednesdays 12 noon EST (or EDT)- last call was on the 3rd which you seem to have attended. Please join the mailing list etc. See https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/identity/identity-wg

szewong (Fri, 05 Oct 2018 15:14:05 GMT):
@phaniac that was not a call. We had a session during HackFest Montreal. So no, you did not miss a call. ;)

VipinB (Fri, 05 Oct 2018 15:59:29 GMT):
@brentzundel the non paywall version of the paper can be found here https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ss4ch9BXa7YIsKVEXJZTrDLlxobqAqU-

VipinB (Fri, 05 Oct 2018 15:59:29 GMT):
@brentzundel the non paywall version of the paper can be found here https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ss4ch9BXa7YIsKVEXJZTrDLlxobqAqU- I had shared this on the mailing list I believe

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jmason900 (Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:01:49 GMT):
A great resource I use is: https://www.trust.mit.edu/ There is a good paper on blockchain interoperability here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1805.05934.pdf?

jmason900 (Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:17:45 GMT):
One more resource on some MIT trust and identity projects for data: https://www.trust.mit.edu/projects/

brentzundel (Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:18:38 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=sZsKHENMFiLDSt9Eb) @VipinB Thanks!

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VipinB (Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:21:49 GMT):
Thanks @jmason900 I am cross posting the first paper to ID WG

VipinB (Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:21:49 GMT):
Thanks @jmason900 I am cross posting the first paper to #architecture-wg

jmason900 (Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:22:39 GMT):
thanks !

VipinB (Wed, 17 Oct 2018 12:52:57 GMT):
@here Call of the Identity WG today October 17th 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below). Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Hackfest - recap Cross WG efforts as well as collaboration with EEA- thoughts Discuss material added: IDoT, Iroha, DiDs etc All other business. Please participate and collaborate!

szewong (Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:30:46 GMT):
I have a client meeting that may run into this meeting. That said, I am going to try my best to call in.

drummondreed (Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:41:28 GMT):
Vipin, the stars have aligned and I think I can make the first half of the Identity WG meeting today. Happy to share a short update about Hyperledger Indy and the Sovrin Governance Framework if that helps.

drummondreed (Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:44:40 GMT):
Also, there's a new webinar that Manu Sporny and I gave on the work at W3C to form a full DID Working Group. http://ssimeetup.org/decentralized-identifiers-dids-w3c-manu-sporny-drummond-reed-webinar-15/

VipinB (Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:01:46 GMT):
~~~~~~~~ Start of meeting ~~~~~~~~~

VipinB (Wed, 17 Oct 2018 17:03:22 GMT):
~~~~~~~ End of meeting ~~~~~

drummondreed (Wed, 17 Oct 2018 17:04:28 GMT):
Here's the link to the calendar of Hyperledger Indy calls: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?mode=AGENDA&src=linuxfoundation.org_nf9u64g9k9rvd9f8vp4vur23b0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=UTC

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VipinB (Wed, 31 Oct 2018 09:13:19 GMT):
@here Call of the Identity WG today October 17th 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below). Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Cross WG efforts as well as collaboration with EEA- thoughts Discuss new material added: IDoT, Iroha, DiDs etc All other business. Please participate and collaborate!

VipinB (Wed, 31 Oct 2018 09:13:19 GMT):
@here Call of the Identity WG today October 31st 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below). Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Happy Halloween! Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Welcome new contributors! Steve Ehrlich from BWA (GDPR, right to be forgotten) Cross WG efforts as well as collaboration with EEA- thoughts Discuss new material added: IDoT, Iroha, DiDs etc All other business. Please participate and collaborate!

VipinB (Wed, 31 Oct 2018 17:14:36 GMT):
@here great call as usual. I attach the link to the notes (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit#), please review, correct and add if needed.

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VipinB (Mon, 12 Nov 2018 17:44:24 GMT):
@here Call of the Identity WG Nov 14 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below). Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust The paper will be reformatted and rationalized before the meeting (thanks to Sze Wong) Cross WG efforts as well as collaboration with EEA- thoughts Discuss new material added: IDoT, Iroha, DiDs All other business. Please participate and collaborate!

szewong (Wed, 14 Nov 2018 17:04:09 GMT):
Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit#

VipinB (Wed, 14 Nov 2018 18:01:36 GMT):
Great call, let us get the paper done! Thanks Sze

szewong (Wed, 14 Nov 2018 18:02:06 GMT):
All, Thanks for the interest in moving the paper forward. A couple guidelines:

szewong (Wed, 14 Nov 2018 18:02:48 GMT):
1. If you are to contribute/edit a particular section, please go ahead and add a comment that says: "Please review" so we can follow up.

szewong (Wed, 14 Nov 2018 18:04:14 GMT):
2. If you have content and don't know where to put it, just add at the end of the paper. We will do our best to incorporate into the main sections. Any content is good content.

szewong (Wed, 14 Nov 2018 18:05:07 GMT):
And, PM me anytime.

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VipinB (Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:33:42 GMT):
@here Call of the Identity WG Nov 28 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below). Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Introduce participants Matt Raffel talks about the Sovrin test network. Discuss paper- progress, the general direction. Cross WG efforts as well as collaboration with EEA- standards? Discuss new material to be added: IDoT, Iroha, Burrow, Quilt, DiDs All other business.

VipinB (Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:33:42 GMT):
@here Call of the Identity WG Nov 28 (tomorrow) 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(details below). Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Or iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Please volunteer: Document for volunteering: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDPVDer9G-IjqicB65G9Uo2RhzpYLY4mGpVpEPu_Wt4/edit?usp=drivesdk Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Introduce participants Matt Raffel talks about the Sovrin test network. Discuss paper- progress, the general direction. Cross WG efforts as well as collaboration with EEA- standards? Discuss new material to be added: IDoT, Iroha, Burrow, Quilt, DiDs All other business.

drummondreed (Wed, 28 Nov 2018 06:01:47 GMT):
Vipin, the stars have aligned (for probably the last time this year) so I should be able to make the first 30 mins of tomorrow's call. Fingers crossed!

VipinB (Wed, 28 Nov 2018 14:01:32 GMT):
Heard about your talk in Madrid.

jmason900 (Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:07:59 GMT):
@VipinB I have another call today I have to attend so I'll miss today's meeting. I did propose some changes on the common use case requirements on the WP.

VipinB (Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:10:33 GMT):
Saw that @jmason900

jmason900 (Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:13:29 GMT):
also nothing happening in the next release on Fabric related to Indy integration... any of that work is for 2019

VipinB (Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:16:19 GMT):
We will try to incorporate mention of that Roadmap in the paper; since the example of Fabric will be used to illustrate the evolution or at least desire for Enterprise Blockchain Platforms to support existing Legacy infrastructure as well as support for developing standards like DiDs.

VipinB (Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:17:10 GMT):
Also I will tee up a discussion on standards in DiDs. Since @drummondreed will be attending.

MattRaffel (Wed, 28 Nov 2018 17:42:37 GMT):
How to connect to sovrin test network--here's some links: registering for trust anchor: https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/evernym-cs/sovrin-STNnetwork/www/trust-anchor.html pool genesis transaction files https://github.com/sovrin-foundation/sovrin/tree/master/sovrin forum for questions, link below is common reference https://forum.sovrin.org/t/testing-on-the-sovrin-test-network-stn/643

VipinB (Wed, 28 Nov 2018 18:15:01 GMT):
Thanks @MattRaffel I have added this to the meeting notes.

VipinB (Wed, 28 Nov 2018 18:17:04 GMT):
@here Please see the minutes taken and add or change material based on your participation in the meeting; especially if it relates to what you said (there is always the recording to go to-) Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit#

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VipinB (Tue, 11 Dec 2018 15:40:06 GMT):
@here the meeting for Identity WG tomorrow is cancelled due to the Hyperledger Global Summit

VipinB (Tue, 11 Dec 2018 15:41:13 GMT):
I thought I could make it work, but there are lots to do and we will clash with some other events here.

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drummondreed (Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:09:49 GMT):
All good, Vipin. I will look for you here at HGF.

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VipinB (Wed, 26 Dec 2018 14:37:54 GMT):
@here Call of the Identity WG today 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(call details below). We may have a truncated session based on the attendance! Happy Holidays and a Happy new year! Happy solstice! Here's to longer days in the Northern hemisphere-and shorter days in South of the equator. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Introduce participants Projects for the next year Report on HGF (Hyperledger Global Forum) Combining the Identity paper. All other business. All are welcome.- zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call.

VipinB (Wed, 26 Dec 2018 17:02:11 GMT):
@here call is open!

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VipinB (Sun, 30 Dec 2018 16:00:15 GMT):
@here as expected very thin attendance on boxing day; just one new member attended. We discussed the goals of the group for 2019 including the paper and discussions about new projects to be kick-started (identity wallets mostly)

VipinB (Sun, 30 Dec 2018 16:00:36 GMT):
Next call on Jan 9th.

VipinB (Sun, 30 Dec 2018 16:01:31 GMT):
@here - Have a great 2019. Collaborate and build the nextgen

nage (Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:54:20 GMT):
Getting started on an Identity Wallets project proposal that I hope to propose as soon as Ursa has had a release that Indy can depend on. If you'd like to sponsor the project or help edit the proposal, please let me know.

nage (Wed, 02 Jan 2019 23:12:14 GMT):
It is very early in the document's development, but you may take a peek here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x9O2m-jr282srH1BRcOJQjTROes8T7lnosI2_IPB26E

KellyCooper (Thu, 03 Jan 2019 14:10:52 GMT):
The Learning Materials Development working group is in need of contributors for our 2019 objectives: edX Fabric update, edX Sawtooth update, edX Iroha tutorial. At this time, over 133,000 learners have participated in the edX courses. If you, or someone you know (university student, freelance developer, researcher, etc) is interested in contributing, please see the worksheet: 2019 Team and Individual/Small Group Objectives, Key Results, Participants and Tasks - https://goo.gl/1HzKaD The worksheet has two tabs, one for contributions to the group's 2019 OKRs, and a second that notes individual contributions. Feel free to message or reply with any questions. Thank you, Kelly

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VipinB (Sat, 05 Jan 2019 06:39:53 GMT):
@nage thanks for the wallet proposal. I believe this could be one of the key initiatives under the Identity WG as we had discussed before. I will leave comments on the google docs, I would like to sponsor this proposal as it would be a key initiative for adoption for all dlt projects.

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nage (Mon, 07 Jan 2019 16:37:19 GMT):
@VipinB, I have added you to the sponsors and am working to incorporate comments

VipinB (Tue, 08 Jan 2019 12:24:32 GMT):
@here Call of the Identity WG tomorrow 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(call details below). We may have a truncated session based on the attendance! Happy Holidays and a Happy new year! Happy solstice! Here's to longer days in the Northern hemisphere-and shorter days in South of the equator. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Introduce participants Projects for the next year (Edge communications) Report on HGF (Hyperledger Global Forum) Combining the Identity papers (arch WG and IDWG). All other business. All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call.

VipinB (Tue, 08 Jan 2019 12:24:32 GMT):
@here Call of the Identity WG tomorrow 12 noon EST will happen on Zoom...(call details below). We may have a truncated session based on the attendance! Happy Holidays and a Happy new year! Happy solstice! Here's to longer days in the Northern hemisphere-and shorter days in South of the equator. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11JW9BoHlelDRj6zA8FZO6owbW1pd-8VwBUBb-6cnvWM/edit?usp=sharing Agenda: Announce start of call Anti-Trust Introduce participants Projects for the next year (Edge communications) Report on HGF (Hyperledger Global Forum) Combining the Identity papers (arch WG and IDWG). All other business. All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call.

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hartm (Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:26:08 GMT):
Going to be at RWC tomorrow, as I suspect many others are (including you Vipin!).

louisk (Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:46:01 GMT):
forgive my ignorance - what is RWC?

louisk (Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:47:38 GMT):
I'm planning to join this call, as somebody implementing HL indy, and interested in helping in whatever capacity i can with identity in general

JonathanLevi (Tue, 08 Jan 2019 22:24:38 GMT):
@louisk https://rwc.iacr.org/2019/

JonathanLevi (Tue, 08 Jan 2019 22:24:42 GMT):
Real World Crytpo

JonathanLevi (Tue, 08 Jan 2019 22:24:42 GMT):
Real World Crypto

VipinB (Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:38:11 GMT):
@here The call will happen at 12 pm EST (same as 9 am PST)

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KirkWallace (Thu, 17 Jan 2019 09:52:54 GMT):
Hi-Are there recordings of the calls (if so please post a link)- thanks

KirkWallace (Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:20:47 GMT):
Found it.

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VipinB (Wed, 23 Jan 2019 04:14:56 GMT):
@here Hello everyone, Please attend tomorrow's call (12 noon EST) for the latest Identity related topics in Hyperledger and beyond! Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nVkjhSlghjc4KFWEYDU2B0ztWCFh1CK8a7VmqwFsnKY/edit# Agenda Announce start of call Anti-Trust Introduce participants Update for TSC & community expansion First GDPR penalty- discuss Projects for HK bootcamp? New Model for paper with latest additions A new project Communications on the edge (Egalite)- next week All other business. All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call.

drummondreed (Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:12:34 GMT):
Vipin, sorry I can't make it today; just landed in London on way to Frankfurt for a meeting with a global consortium that wants to adopt DIDs and verifiable credentials (using Indy of course). With luck I'll report next week.

VipinB (Wed, 23 Jan 2019 14:12:55 GMT):
I thought you had a Sovrin trustee meeting today as well.

VipinB (Wed, 23 Jan 2019 16:46:49 GMT):
@here All meeting agendas are now going to be under https://wiki2.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/Meeting+Agendas

VipinB (Wed, 23 Jan 2019 16:54:46 GMT):
@here migrating to new confluence. So we can gather everything together under one roof.

hartm (Wed, 23 Jan 2019 17:39:59 GMT):
I have to drop--thanks for the meeting everyone!

VipinB (Wed, 23 Jan 2019 17:59:08 GMT):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ybX1n_hgZIcIOxHZv3MDesKe8HyJJbfFzXxZ1HRA85s/edit#heading=h.8vgn9l565hsp - new whitepaper model proposed by Nathan

szewong (Thu, 24 Jan 2019 02:40:18 GMT):
Are there meeting notes or recording from yesterday's meeting?

VipinB (Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:10:58 GMT):
Recording will be made available; meeting minutes will be posted!

VipinB (Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:11:17 GMT):
From now on will be in confluence

VipinB (Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:11:51 GMT):
wiki2.hyperledger.org (soon to be wiki.hyperledger.org) and its subtrees

VipinB (Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:52:54 GMT):
Certification mark guidelines for Digital Identity published from ID2020; I see our own @bbehlendorf on the list of contributors... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L0RhDq98xj4ieh5CuN-P3XerK6umKRTPWMS8Ckz6_J8/edit

VipinB (Sun, 27 Jan 2019 00:07:23 GMT):
https://medium.com/@vipinsun/real-world-crypto-2019-b011922858d1 Real world crypto 2019, a summary report by yours truly

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VipinB (Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:16:58 GMT):
Great Indy writeup on Identities by @danielhardman in System Identities whitepaper! https://docs.google.com/document/d/10D0WgbMV91YBPzKTutc5TNirDC1RRzB_8GSF84hv4l4/edit#heading=h.9xhpngz5zfsq

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drummondreed (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 03:17:36 GMT):
@VipinB Shows how far behind I am—I didn't even know @danielhardman was working on that. I just read the whole thing and I completely agree—AFAIC, Daniel is one of the best writers not just about Indy, but about any identity, security, or privacy technology—that I know. (And he's not just a technology writer either—he's a published novelist. See his books on Amazon.)

VipinB (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 17:05:55 GMT):
Meeting is about to start

VipinB (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 17:07:49 GMT):
@here Please attend call happening right now for the latest Identity related topics in Hyperledger and beyond! Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes at this location now. Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: Start of call Anti-trust Introduce folks Review last Meeting minutes New proposal: Financial MarketsSIG Egalite - Nathan George, Sovrin: proposer Sovrin Connectathon - Sam Curren Privacy & Confidentiality-today Paper progress and rework Community development All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call.

nage (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 17:15:32 GMT):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x9O2m-jr282srH1BRcOJQjTROes8T7lnosI2_IPB26E/edit?ts=5c3771d1

nage (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 17:36:28 GMT):
Sovrin Agent Connectathon Agenda https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dfGj5yjpSHzRF6UVPv7Ld1PTFme3fsXEwpLs0_e6NGA/edit#

nage (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 17:47:20 GMT):
Some basic protocol description information can be found here https://github.com/hyperledger/indy-hipe/blob/411806380ea8a227f8307d780c9e179c50eca53c/text/0016-agent-test-suite-v1/README.md

nage (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 17:49:22 GMT):
For Rocket.chat collaboration on the identity protocol connect-a-thon event, feel free to join us here https://chat.sovrin.org/channel/connectathon

stanliberman (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:05:05 GMT):
@nage I have a question about the new project proposal. Firstly, I think it's a great idea to separate the ledger from the tools and libraries used to manage and varify the credentials.

stanliberman (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:05:43 GMT):
The question is (a little tongue in cheek): what is the value of HP Indy without everything that will be separated into the new project?

nage (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:06:06 GMT):
:) Indy has some very unique properties to make it a verifiable data registry

nage (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:06:53 GMT):
but one of our goals here is to make the protocol more flexible for other chains. I am hoping it means that other chains can adopt and use the protocol immediately and will pick up the Indy resolver and start anchoring things to Sovrin because of the practical benefits

nage (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:07:32 GMT):
(meaning state proofs, fully BFT consensus, immutability of objects related to the protocol like semantics support)

nage (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 18:07:59 GMT):
the static validator node construct helps supports many aspects of bootstrapping webs of trust

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VipinB (Wed, 06 Feb 2019 23:06:59 GMT):
@here great call today; somewhat technical with some excursions into policy. We will share meeting recordings and the notes soon

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VipinB (Tue, 19 Feb 2019 18:34:21 GMT):
@here Please attend call happening right now for the latest Identity related topics in Hyperledger and beyond! Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes at this location now. Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: Start of call Anti-trust Introduce folks Review last Meeting minutes - re-read - Envoy Nathan George, Sovrin: proposer - Sovrin Connectathon - short announcement Paper progress and rework New proposal: Financial MarketsSIG Community development All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call.

VipinB (Tue, 19 Feb 2019 18:34:21 GMT):
@here Please attend call tomorrow 12 Noon EST for the latest Identity related topics in Hyperledger and beyond! Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes at this location now. Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: Start of call Anti-trust Introduce folks Review last Meeting minutes - re-read - Envoy Nathan George, Sovrin: proposer - Sovrin Connectathon - short announcement - New proposal: Financial MarketsSIG Paper progress and rework Community development All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call.

VipinB (Wed, 20 Feb 2019 17:05:22 GMT):
@here the meeting has started

VipinB (Wed, 20 Feb 2019 18:00:14 GMT):
End of meeting...

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VipinB (Sun, 03 Mar 2019 23:52:01 GMT):
@here The Identity WG call set to take place this Wednesday(March 6) 12 noon EST is cancelled. We will have the call on March 20 as scheduled. We are searching for a time slot on alternate Wednesdays (March 13th etc.) so that it is convenient for APAC and Europe. I would think that 6 am EDT would be that time. We will try it on March 13th at 6am EDT. Please let me know if you think that this will help the APAC and European participants. It will be at UTC-4 (since daylight savings start this coming Sunday(March 10) in the US).

tuckerg (Wed, 06 Mar 2019 11:32:44 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=PLxdEMShsv9Qiz9MS) @VipinB Yes, that schedule will work much better for me (Japan). Thanks for the change.

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VipinB (Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:09:34 GMT):
An exploration of privacy through 4th amendment

VipinB (Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:14:27 GMT):
Security & Privacy in the age of Surveillance https://link.medium.com/iMUfIzel8U

VipinB (Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:51:31 GMT):
@here Seeking to develop an Agenda for our call on March 20th Tentative Agenda is - Anti Trust announcement -Introduce the callers -Addition of a call at 8 pm EDT (midnight UTC) on staggered weeks for APAC -Discussion of the DiF paper (newly published) -Discussion on the progress of Identity WG paper Please let me know the level of interest in this and other calls, I hope to hear from you with an affirmation or expression of interest in the Identity WG.

VipinB (Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:38:30 GMT):
@here 12 noon EDT and 8 pm EDT That would be 4 pm UTC and 12 midnight UTC Hello all, Trying an experiment tomorrow by running multiple calls at different times with the same Agenda. This is an attempt to escape the time zone limitations of our calls. 4 pm UTC is good for The whole of North and South America as well as Europe and possibly parts of the near East. 12 midnight UTC the whole of East Asia, Australia etc. We might fiddle with these dates and times. What is unknown at this point is the level of interest we might get Two calls tomorrow: 4 pm UTC and 12 midnight UTC Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes on the wiki now. Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email. This is the location (https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-03-20+Notes) You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-03-20 All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call.

VipinB (Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:38:30 GMT):
@here 12 noon EDT and 8 pm EDT March 20, 2019 That would be 4 pm UTC and 12 midnight UTC (March 20, 2019) Trying an experiment tomorrow by running multiple calls at different times with the same Agenda. This is an attempt to escape the time zone limitations of our calls. 4 pm UTC is good for The whole of North and South America as well as Europe and possibly parts of the near East. 12 midnight UTC the whole of East Asia, Australia etc. We might fiddle with these dates and times. What is unknown at this point is the level of interest we might get Two calls tomorrow: 4 pm UTC and 12 midnight UTC Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes on the wiki now. Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email. This is the location (https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-03-20+Notes) You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-03-20 All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call.

drummondreed (Wed, 20 Mar 2019 16:26:38 GMT):
Links from today's discussion of SSI (Self-Sovereign Identity) and Hyperledger Indy and open standards:

drummondreed (Wed, 20 Mar 2019 16:27:00 GMT):
Sovrin Glossary from Sovrin Foundation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gfIz5TT0cNp2kxGMLFXr19x1uoZsruUe_0glHst2fZ8/edit?usp=sharing

drummondreed (Wed, 20 Mar 2019 16:27:11 GMT):
Sovrin Foundation: https://sovrin.org/

drummondreed (Wed, 20 Mar 2019 16:27:27 GMT):
W3C Credentials Community Group: https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/

drummondreed (Wed, 20 Mar 2019 16:27:40 GMT):
W3C Verifiable Claims Working Group: https://www.w3.org/2017/vc/charter.html

drummondreed (Wed, 20 Mar 2019 16:28:04 GMT):
Sovrin Governance Framework: https://sovrin.org/governance-framework/

drummondreed (Wed, 20 Mar 2019 16:28:37 GMT):
Sovrin Governance Framework Working Group Meeting Page: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aJskOztz8NP8tI-9eaKaaOypF0Fm__SCLKR-U8ptSII/edit?usp=sharing

drummondreed (Wed, 20 Mar 2019 16:29:28 GMT):
Verified Organization Network: https://vonx.io/

VipinB (Wed, 20 Mar 2019 23:58:38 GMT):
@here meeting starts in two minutes. This is the second meeting of the IDWG

szewong (Thu, 21 Mar 2019 01:00:15 GMT):
Oops. I missed the meeting. How did it go?

tuckerg (Thu, 21 Mar 2019 01:59:22 GMT):
It was interesting. Thanks for running it. Is there a link to the recorded session?

VipinB (Thu, 21 Mar 2019 11:40:14 GMT):
I will put it up soon

szewong (Thu, 21 Mar 2019 15:21:12 GMT):
Did we have a big audience on the 8pm call?

VipinB (Thu, 21 Mar 2019 18:28:22 GMT):
We had 6 people (including myself and Drummond). There was a guy from Australia and one from Japan, the other two were from Dallas and Seattle

szewong (Thu, 21 Mar 2019 19:36:43 GMT):
Great

pieterp (Fri, 22 Mar 2019 07:12:46 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=i8Ei7pwErY3QcwhoG) @VipinB Hi @VipinB. Where will that be posted? On the Notes page? Thanks!

VipinB (Fri, 22 Mar 2019 10:25:46 GMT):
https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG Meeting Recordings @here recordings for March 20 are both here

VipinB (Fri, 22 Mar 2019 16:29:28 GMT):
Will be sharing the meeting notes soon

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VipinB (Sat, 23 Mar 2019 15:50:14 GMT):
@here A brief recap of the experiment conducted on the 20th which was to have two calls with roughly the same Agenda at different times to spur participation across the globe. Also, evangelized on other SIGs and working groups to have cross pollination. The Identity WG calls had a lot of discussion and two compelling presentations on DiDs and related technologies (SSI). Please look at the meeting notes and recordings to get a sense of the depth of the analysis, questions, connections drawn. We conclude that having two calls has increased participation. We will continue the two call format. We invite Identity experts from all of the DLTs in Hyperledger and elsewhere to give their views and guide us in what Enterprises are expecting today as far as Identity Management systems go and their pain-points and their solutions. Also useful would be insight into actual use cases and their plans to integrate divided Identity systems. We will continue the two call format going forward; the next call(s) on the 3rd of April. - There will be a presentation on the India Community Group on April 1(sic) on the ID WG; - Updated paper is being driven towards a draft version. Suggested Agenda for the next call : 1. Demo of universal resolver by DiF 2. Convergence of solutions (DiF, Solid and others), how they affect us 3. Layer 2 Identity protocols (for privacy of data and meta-data)- common effects 4. Roadmap towards an Agent 2 Agent protocol 5. Digital Wallets and their importance for Identity Management

danielhardman (Sat, 23 Mar 2019 20:58:51 GMT):
Regarding #4, you ought to have someone from the indy-agent working group come to talk about the agent-to-agent protocol they've developed.

drummondreed (Sat, 23 Mar 2019 21:14:48 GMT):
@danielhardman Yes, I gave that same advice to Vipin when I showed the SSI stack diagram on last week's call. I think the Hyperledger Identity WG should start engaging the Indy Agent WG in an active dialog, since that's where all the action is right now.

VipinB (Sun, 24 Mar 2019 01:40:11 GMT):
@danielhardman @drummondreed welcome that.

VipinB (Sun, 24 Mar 2019 01:48:04 GMT):
Are there other A2A protocols being developed?

VipinB (Sun, 24 Mar 2019 16:00:45 GMT):
@danielhardman will you be willing to talk about A2A or should I be showing up at the Indy Agent WG and get some learnings from that to talk to the people in Identity WG?

VipinB (Sun, 24 Mar 2019 16:01:55 GMT):
Since Identity WG is cross DLT and also needs to look at the A2A landscape in general. We must generalize.

VipinB (Sun, 24 Mar 2019 16:45:18 GMT):
I saw some HIPE discussion on Indy-Agent, any other concrete documentation...

VipinB (Sun, 24 Mar 2019 16:45:18 GMT):
I saw some HIPE discussion on Indy-Agent, any other concrete documentation?

danielhardman (Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:32:54 GMT):
@VipinB I would be happy to come and talk. There are numerous HIPEs that relate to this topic. Some of the key ones include: https://github.com/hyperledger/indy-hipe/blob/36913b80685b224143439933473a86e8a7d2a8b2/text/0002-agents/README.md https://github.com/hyperledger/indy-hipe/blob/b0708395fd1669df33a9619efa7770a20c97006e/text/0003-did-comm/README.md https://github.com/hyperledger/indy-hipe/tree/36913b80685b224143439933473a86e8a7d2a8b2/text/0028-wire-message-format https://github.com/hyperledger/indy-hipe/blob/f12c422213b19e4181cdd288671afe2218f82e2c/text/protocols/README.md

VipinB (Mon, 25 Mar 2019 19:37:59 GMT):
Maybe next time (April 17) for a talk, this week we will have Rick Cranston from CULedger

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silviu (Tue, 26 Mar 2019 14:28:20 GMT):
Hi everyone. I'm trying to build a concept for federated identity on blockchain. would Hyperledger Indy be the right one to do that or should I use another Hyperledger framework ? Any suggestions?

VipinB (Tue, 26 Mar 2019 15:12:56 GMT):
@silviu Indy would be the right choice...The channels are #indy #indy-node and #indy-agent, it would be worthwhile to look at the stack and the current state of development through the presentations on this channel to get a general overview before embarking on this. Where is this federated Identity being built? Can you share the thought process and the use case (if you can).

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VipinB (Tue, 02 Apr 2019 17:21:19 GMT):
@here Identity WG will continue its two calls schedule for April 3rd/4th hat would be 4 pm UTC and 00:00 midnight UTC (April 4th for UTC and points East) Hello all, Multiple calls at different times with the same Agenda. This is an attempt to escape the time zone limitations of our calls. 4 pm UTC is good for The whole of North and South America as well as Europe and possibly parts of the near East. 00:00 midnight UTC the whole of East Asia, Australia etc. (this would be the next day the 4th of April for all points UTC and East) We are still fiddling with these dates and times. Two calls tomorrow: 4 pm UTC and 00:00 midnight UTC (April 4th) Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes on the wiki now. ( https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-03+Notes ) Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email. You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-03 Select items from the Agenda (go to the link for details): -DiD layers -Presentation from Rick Cranston from CU Ledger All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. Please reach out if you have questions, attend the call, participate to collaborate!

drummondreed (Wed, 03 Apr 2019 08:43:44 GMT):
Vipin, just a reminder that due to travel I can't attend tomorrow's calls. My apologies.

tuckerg (Wed, 03 Apr 2019 09:16:23 GMT):
Due to scheduling conflicts I probably won't be able to attend the Asia-Pacific call. I look forward to viewing the recording.

VipinB (Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:12:53 GMT):
@here Reminding all that Rick Cranston of CULedger will be doing a presentation of what they are up to and giving a perspective on the field implementation of SSI.

VipinB (Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:13:09 GMT):
On both calls!

VipinB (Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:14:51 GMT):
4 pm UTC today as well as 00:00 UTC April 4th (which is still 8 pm EDT eastern daylight time)

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VipinB (Wed, 03 Apr 2019 17:03:22 GMT):
@here great first call at noon just ended. Will have meeting notes and recordings up. The majority of the call was taken up by Rick Cranston's report on the CULedger

VipinB (Wed, 03 Apr 2019 17:03:54 GMT):
Small demo of DiF's implementation of the DiD universal resolver...

szewong (Wed, 03 Apr 2019 17:07:35 GMT):
Let's try to spend more time on the Universal Resolve demo in the second call.

VipinB (Wed, 03 Apr 2019 17:12:07 GMT):
OK!

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toddgehrke (Thu, 04 Apr 2019 01:00:26 GMT):
@VipinB Can you share a links to recordings of the CULedger meetings today?

VipinB (Thu, 04 Apr 2019 01:20:48 GMT):
will do as soon as I put them up

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rjones (Tue, 09 Apr 2019 16:44:59 GMT):
Identity Working Group https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG

rjones (Tue, 09 Apr 2019 16:44:59 GMT):
For more information see: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG

nage (Thu, 11 Apr 2019 04:51:29 GMT):
The Indy community is looking to name the new project proposal to split off the agent protocol (wallet, messaging and credentials exchange) project that has been incubated within Indy into its own project to help support standards compliance and protocol interoperability more broadly than just Indy (formerly known as Egalite and Envoy, which both had name issues). If you would like to help decide on the name, please respond to this survey sometime within the next 30 hours. https://forms.gle/5s879DB2Kp37DZYe7 I expect we will start discussing results over in #indy and in #indy-maintainers sometime Friday afternoon (US time) once most folks have had a chance to respond.

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VipinB (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:37:23 GMT):
@nage are the results out?

VipinB (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:38:41 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=8EaHh28NzgMecrzgg) @toddgehrke @toddgehrke I had put up the recordings sometime last week and announced on the mailing list

nage (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:58:19 GMT):
@VipinB Hyperledger Aries was the clear leader (by 3x the votes)

nage (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:59:10 GMT):
I have started some logo rough sketches and have started working on a new draft of the project proposal (I will merge it down in to the other doc sometime today or tomorrow)

nage (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 16:41:59 GMT):
The proposal will end up here https://wiki.hyperledger.org/pages/resumedraft.action?draftId=9109693&draftShareId=0d342e64-e872-4af9-990d-3c558ac248f6&src=shareui&src.shareui.timestamp=1555432863217

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VipinB (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:02:28 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=ayn5yAD6tMbbgJK4F) @danielhardman Hi @danielhardman could you confirm that you can talk about Agent 2 Agent at tomorrow's call

VipinB (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:02:56 GMT):
Also what does this mean in terms of HL Aries?

VipinB (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:21:00 GMT):
@here Identity WG will continue its two calls schedule for April 17th/18th hat would be 4 pm UTC and *01:00* midnight UTC (April 18th for UTC and points East) PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGED TIME FOR SECOND CALL Hello all, Multiple calls at different times with the same Agenda. This is an attempt to escape the time zone limitations of our calls. 4 pm UTC is good for The whole of North and South America as well as Europe and possibly parts of the near East. 01:00 midnight UTC the whole of East Asia, Australia etc. (this would be the next day for all points UTC and East) We are still fiddling with these dates and times. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes on the wiki now. ( https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17+Notes ) Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email. You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17 Select items from the Agenda (go to the link for details): -DiD schemas presentation by Jim Wowchuk All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. Please reach out if you have questions, attend the call, participate to collaborate!

VipinB (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:21:00 GMT):
@here Identity WG will continue its two calls schedule for April 17th/18th hat would be 4 pm UTC and *01:00* midnight UTC (April 18th for UTC and points East) PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGED TIME FOR SECOND CALL Hello all, Multiple calls at different times with the same Agenda. This is an attempt to escape the time zone limitations of our calls. 4 pm UTC is good for The whole of North and South America as well as Europe and possibly parts of the near East. 01:00 midnight UTC the whole of East Asia, Australia etc. (this would be the next day for all points UTC and East) We are still fiddling with these dates and times. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes on the wiki now. ( https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17+Notes ) Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email. You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17 Select items from the Agenda (go to the link for details): -Work on the paper -Report to TSC -Agent 2 Agent discussion -DiD schemas presentation by Jim Wowchuk All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. Please reach out if you have questions, attend the call, participate to collaborate!

VipinB (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:21:00 GMT):
@here Identity WG will continue its two calls schedule for April 17th/18th that would be 4 pm UTC and *01:00* midnight UTC (April 18th for UTC and points East) PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGED TIME FOR SECOND CALL Hello all, Multiple calls at different times with the same Agenda. This is an attempt to escape the time zone limitations of our calls. 4 pm UTC is good for The whole of North and South America as well as Europe and possibly parts of the near East. 01:00 midnight UTC the whole of East Asia, Australia etc. (this would be the next day for all points UTC and East) We are still fiddling with these dates and times. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes on the wiki now. ( https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17+Notes ) Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email. You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17 Select items from the Agenda (go to the link for details): -Work on the paper -Report to TSC -Agent 2 Agent discussion -DiD schemas presentation by Jim Wowchuk All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. Please reach out if you have questions, attend the call, participate to collaborate!

VipinB (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:21:00 GMT):
@here Identity WG will continue its two calls schedule for April 17th/18th that would be 4 pm UTC and *01:00* midnight UTC (April 18th for UTC and points East) PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGED TIME FOR SECOND CALL Hello all, Multiple calls at different times with the same Agenda. This is an attempt to escape the time zone limitations of our calls. 4 pm UTC is good for The whole of North and South America as well as Europe and possibly parts of the near East. 01:00 midnight UTC the whole of East Asia, Australia etc. (this would be the next day for all points UTC and East) We are still fiddling with these dates and times. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes on the wiki now. ( https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17+Notes ) Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email. You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17 Select items from the Agenda (go to the link for details): -Work on the paper -Report to TSC -Agent 2 Agent discussion -DiD schemas presentation by Jim Wowchuk All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. Please reach out if you have questions, attend the call, participate to collaborate!

VipinB (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:21:00 GMT):
@here Identity WG will continue its two calls schedule for April 17th/18th that would be 4 pm UTC and *01:00* midnight UTC (April 18th for UTC and points East) PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGED TIME FOR SECOND CALL Hello all, Multiple calls at different times with the same Agenda. This is an attempt to escape the time zone limitations of our calls. 4 pm UTC is good for The whole of North and South America as well as Europe and possibly parts of the near East. 01:00 am UTC the whole of East Asia, Australia etc. (this would be the next day for all points UTC and East) We are still fiddling with these dates and times. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes on the wiki now. ( https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17+Notes ) Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email. You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17 Select items from the Agenda (go to the link for details): -Work on the paper -Report to TSC -Agent 2 Agent discussion -DiD schemas presentation by Jim Wowchuk All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. Please reach out if you have questions, attend the call, participate to collaborate!

VipinB (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:21:00 GMT):
@here Identity WG will continue its two calls schedule for April 17th/18th that would be 4 pm UTC and *01:00* AM UTC (April 18th for UTC and points East) PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGED TIME FOR SECOND CALL Hello all, Multiple calls at different times with the same Agenda. This is an attempt to escape the time zone limitations of our calls. 4 pm UTC is good for The whole of North and South America as well as Europe and possibly parts of the near East. 01:00 am UTC the whole of East Asia, Australia etc. (this would be the next day for all points UTC and East) We are still fiddling with these dates and times. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes on the wiki now. ( https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17+Notes ) Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email. You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17 Select items from the Agenda (go to the link for details): -Work on the paper -Report to TSC -Agent 2 Agent discussion -DiD schemas presentation by Jim Wowchuk All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. Please reach out if you have questions, attend the call, participate to collaborate!

VipinB (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:25:15 GMT):
@here Identity WG will continue its two calls schedule for April 17th/18th that would be 4 pm UTC and *01:00* midnight UTC (April 18th for UTC and points East) PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGED TIME FOR SECOND CALL Hello all, Multiple calls at different times with the same Agenda. This is an attempt to escape the time zone limitations of our calls. 4 pm UTC is good for The whole of North and South America as well as Europe and possibly parts of the near East. 01:00 midnight UTC the whole of East Asia, Australia etc. (this would be the next day for all points UTC and East) We are still fiddling with these dates and times. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes on the wiki now. ( https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17+Notes ) Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email. You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-04-17 Select items from the Agenda (go to the link for details): -Work on the paper -Report to TSC -Agent 2 Agent discussion -DiD schemas presentation by Jim Wowchuk All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. Please reach out if you have questions, attend the call, participate to collaborate!

Silona (Tue, 16 Apr 2019 23:22:31 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=G73RBeNqevhsKJh6w) @nage Did y'all run the names past marketing?

szewong (Wed, 17 Apr 2019 00:05:57 GMT):
I’ll be joining the 1am UTC call

szewong (Wed, 17 Apr 2019 00:05:57 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=0FNw3M19WfV0kSmRZ2) Thanks for the heads up. Is David joining us?

szewong (Wed, 17 Apr 2019 00:08:55 GMT):
@VipinB since it is 1am on April 18th, please remove Midnight from the agenda.

drummondreed (Wed, 17 Apr 2019 07:45:52 GMT):
Vipin, I'm sorry to say I've got hard conflicts at both meeting times tomorrow. But I will try to join the following week. My best to all.

VipinB (Wed, 17 Apr 2019 10:38:05 GMT):
@szewong Dont know how your original message got trashed; But I changed midnight references to 1 am. Hope David is able to join us and speak.. Should I put it on Agenda?

VipinB (Wed, 17 Apr 2019 10:39:12 GMT):
@szewong Thanks for that catch!

nage (Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:08:40 GMT):
[ ](https://chat.hyperledger.org/channel/identity-wg?msg=XNAyaQpm4BXoN4SGw) @Silona I don't have any marketing contacts beyond Helen at the Sovrin Foundation. Who do I need to reach out to?

szewong (Thu, 18 Apr 2019 00:00:12 GMT):
@VipinB David won’t be joining. He feels he is not an “expert” on the subject. I will work on finding someone who can present in a future meeting.

VipinB (Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:46:26 GMT):
NP

VipinB (Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:46:57 GMT):
We had great meetings yesterday; the minutes and the recordings will be on soon.

Silona (Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:03:14 GMT):
@nage the LF marketing team. I'll intro you again but you talked to them before...

nage (Fri, 19 Apr 2019 17:24:21 GMT):
Thanks (replied on the thread you started)

VipinB (Tue, 23 Apr 2019 18:49:50 GMT):
My take on zkproof standards workshop. There are some links to some of the talks and other resources. https://medium.com/@vipinsun/zkproof-standards-workshop-ii-1b1b1568eb14

VipinB (Tue, 23 Apr 2019 18:49:50 GMT):
@here My take on zkproof standards workshop. There are some links to some of the talks and other resources. https://medium.com/@vipinsun/zkproof-standards-workshop-ii-1b1b1568eb14 Important if you are concerned about privacy for Identities

nage (Wed, 24 Apr 2019 19:57:24 GMT):
@VipinB The Hyperledger Aries project proposal is now up on the wiki here https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/HYP/Hyperledger+Aries+Proposal I am a bit over-eager to get it in front of the TSC so that we can try and recruit contributors from Ethereum and other traditional identity systems at the Internet Identity Workshop and DIF meetings next week in Mountain View, CA

VipinB (Wed, 24 Apr 2019 20:28:27 GMT):
@nage You are presenting this tomorrow, right? The name Aries stands then.

nage (Wed, 24 Apr 2019 20:37:40 GMT):
Yes. I have a discussion scheduled with the Marketing folks after the TSC meeting to get their feedback

nage (Wed, 24 Apr 2019 20:37:48 GMT):
:ram:

nage (Wed, 24 Apr 2019 20:40:20 GMT):

aries_logo_ram.png

nage (Wed, 24 Apr 2019 20:40:30 GMT):

aries_logo_collide.png

VipinB (Wed, 24 Apr 2019 20:59:15 GMT):
Butting heads may not your best advertisement...

VipinB (Wed, 24 Apr 2019 21:00:31 GMT):
Anyway, that is for later...

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drummondreed (Mon, 29 Apr 2019 07:01:23 GMT):
I love it—Vipin as graphic artist. John Jordan's graphic designer at BC Gov has already done a treatment too—it's pretty good.

VipinB (Mon, 29 Apr 2019 17:28:53 GMT):
@drummondreed will you be able to present May 1st, since it seems like it is the middle of IIW...

drummondreed (Mon, 29 Apr 2019 20:02:06 GMT):
Vipin, good point, no, I thought you were referring the following week. Trying to dial in during IIW is nearly impossible. Better to report on it the following week.

drummondreed (Mon, 29 Apr 2019 20:02:06 GMT):
Vipin, good point, no, I thought you were referring the following week. Trying to dial in during IIW is nearly impossible. Better to report on it the following meeting.

VipinB (Mon, 29 Apr 2019 20:22:55 GMT):
May 29th! Since the May 15th meeting will be in the middle of consensus!

drummondreed (Mon, 29 Apr 2019 21:40:53 GMT):
Ok, that sounds good. I wasn't planning on being at Consensus, but now it looks like I will be there at least one day.

drummondreed (Mon, 29 Apr 2019 21:47:08 GMT):
Let's definitely get together there

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VipinB (Tue, 30 Apr 2019 12:10:25 GMT):
I will be at Construct! the sister conference

VipinB (Tue, 30 Apr 2019 21:41:11 GMT):
@here May 1 is International workers day, most of Europe Latam, Africa and Asia are off. Also the IIW is in session, All of our Identity warriors will be out in Mountain View. Let us interact on email or chat about the Identity events and the paper. We are canceling the ID WG call tomorrow.

Silona (Tue, 30 Apr 2019 22:56:30 GMT):
yea I'm like breaking the IIW rules even checking these ;-)

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VipinB (Sat, 04 May 2019 20:33:23 GMT):
We may have the May 15th Meeting From the floor of Consensus. @drummondreed are you there on the 14th or the 15th?

drummondreed (Sun, 05 May 2019 23:30:31 GMT):
@VipinB I will be at Consensus (technically I will be a Construct) on Wed the 15th. Happy to attend an in-person meeting of the Identity WG there that day. I believe the talk I'm giving on Indy (and now Aries) is that afternoon.

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VipinB (Thu, 09 May 2019 20:26:30 GMT):
@drummondreed we will have at least one call on the 15th (the noon call) will be delighted if you can participate.

drummondreed (Fri, 10 May 2019 05:02:21 GMT):
Vipin, that will be right after the talk that Dan Gisolfi and I are giving on HL Indy—it runs from 10:30 to noon (the first 45 mins are another IBM person covering Fabric, then Dan and I are doing Indy).

drummondreed (Fri, 10 May 2019 05:03:22 GMT):
So if we can get from that stage straight to a quiet place, we can do the call. Are you coming to our session? Do you have a place lined up where we can all do the call?

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VipinB (Fri, 10 May 2019 10:12:43 GMT):
@drummondreed I have to scope out the venue when I get there to find a quiet place. Since I will be on and off there from Monday we will find a spot. I will try to get to get to your session.

VipinB (Tue, 14 May 2019 00:23:32 GMT):
There will be no call on May 15th... Since I am at Construct 2019 and we cannot find a quiet place to make the call. We will have the call on May 29th.

VipinB (Tue, 14 May 2019 00:23:32 GMT):
@here There will be no call on May 15th... Since I am at Construct 2019 and we cannot find a quiet place to make the call. We will have the call on May 29th.

drummondreed (Tue, 14 May 2019 09:46:12 GMT):
Roger that, Vipin. If you are available, let's have lunch at noon ET on Wednesday after the Hyperledger Indy session that I'm giving with Dan Gisolfi at 11:15AM ET (the session starts at 10:30 with a Fabric walk-through; the second half is an Indy walk-through).

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VipinB (Thu, 23 May 2019 12:07:42 GMT):
Added some more text to the Identity WG paper and cleaned up the PSD2 section, lots of edits contributed. Starting to write the DID section and will add aries. Got a rought edit on the Iroha section

VipinB (Thu, 23 May 2019 12:07:42 GMT):
@here Added some more text to the Identity WG paper and cleaned up the PSD2 section, lots of edits contributed by @mcemkilinc . Starting to write the DID section and will add aries. Got a rought edit on the Iroha section. Please comment...

VipinB (Tue, 28 May 2019 23:29:57 GMT):

Clipboard - May 28, 2019 7:29 PM

VipinB (Tue, 28 May 2019 23:30:02 GMT):
The new logo for Aries looks great:

VipinB (Tue, 28 May 2019 23:38:05 GMT):
@here Identity WG will continue its two calls schedule for May 29th/30th that would be 4 pm UTC and 01:00 AM UTC (May 30th for UTC and points East) PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGED TIME FOR SECOND CALL Hello all, Multiple calls at different times with the same Agenda. This is an attempt to escape the time zone limitations of our calls. 4 pm UTC is good for The whole of North and South America as well as Europe and possibly parts of the near East. 01:00 am UTC the whole of East Asia, Australia etc. (this would be the next day for all points UTC and East) We are still fiddling with these dates and times. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes on the wiki now. ( https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-05-29+Notes ) Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email. You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: -Drummond Reed on IIW as well as Consensus 2019 -FATF report by Stephane Mouy (FATF is the global KYC/AML recommendation body) (I will echo the report at the 9 pm call) -India Consent Layer Ajay Jadhav -Work on the paper All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. Please reach out if you have questions, attend the call, participate to collaborate!

bonifaaa (Wed, 29 May 2019 04:17:58 GMT):
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bonifaaa (Wed, 29 May 2019 04:18:00 GMT):
@VipinB I'm part or the SI-SIG and would like to become a member of this working group. Where do I add my details or do I send my details to you? Thanks!

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VipinB (Wed, 29 May 2019 14:33:51 GMT):
@bonifaaa Everything can be done through the wiki and the links there. There is no formal membership process, you can start by attending the calls and getting yourself on the identity WG mailing lists. You can freely contribute to discussions and the paper as your time and interest allows

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VipinB (Wed, 29 May 2019 16:21:35 GMT):
@here meeting started https://ssimeetup.org/highlights-internet-identity-workshop-28-drummond-reed-ssi-meetup-one-year-anniversary-special-webinar-27/

drummondreed (Wed, 29 May 2019 17:01:24 GMT):
I like it better than the last one. It's *very* distinctive.

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drummondreed (Thu, 30 May 2019 00:58:21 GMT):
@VipinB I need to be driving during the 6PM PT call. Can you show the slides for me? Here is the link: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1BeVz4qJCCfPGJ6lls7dVcnUDUjiHjQ7B6nzv6oJolE4/edit#

drummondreed (Thu, 30 May 2019 00:58:27 GMT):
And once again I have only 30 mins as I must attend a dinner here in Seattle at 6:30 PM PT.

drummondreed (Thu, 30 May 2019 00:58:33 GMT):
Thanks.

jmason900 (Thu, 30 May 2019 01:01:27 GMT):
@VipinB the zoom link to the aries meeting is not working do you have a valid meeting nbr for zoom at 9 pm tonight?

VipinB (Thu, 30 May 2019 11:54:46 GMT):
@jmason900 we cut the meeting short as we had only one participant from APAC who already had listened to the recording etc.

VipinB (Thu, 30 May 2019 11:55:07 GMT):
Also we were on zoom, the link was working

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mboyd (Tue, 04 Jun 2019 00:17:41 GMT):
@VipinB Who are the current chairs of the Identity WG?

VipinB (Tue, 04 Jun 2019 05:07:41 GMT):
@here we have had good participation on the 12:00 pm call (EST) from our members, however we are closing the second call, at least temporarily due to lack of attendance from APAC; we have to figure out ways to increase collaboration from that region on other channels and we will be increasing our outreach on rocketchat and email.

VipinB (Tue, 04 Jun 2019 05:08:12 GMT):
I am the current chair of the Identity WG.

VipinB (Mon, 10 Jun 2019 15:38:48 GMT):
@here Announcing Identity WG audio call at 12 noon EST (4 pm UTC) on June 12th. No second call until further notice Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome.- The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# Meeting minutes: We are taking the minutes on the wiki now. ( https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-06-12+Notes ) Please edit collaboratively or send updates by email. You need a LF ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-06-12 -Luca Boldrin (Is Blockchain necessary to implement DID) -Ajay Jadhav India consent layer -Work on the paper All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. Please reach out if you have questions, attend the call, participate to collaborate!

nitin.agarwal (Wed, 12 Jun 2019 17:10:37 GMT):
https://www.meity.gov.in/writereaddata/files/Personal_Data_Protection_Bill,2018.pdf

nitin.agarwal (Wed, 12 Jun 2019 17:10:53 GMT):
Draft Bill for India Data Protection

jadhavajay (Wed, 12 Jun 2019 17:15:14 GMT):
WHAT IS INDIA STACK? https://indiastack.org/about/ Data Empowerment & Protection Architecture (DEPA) https://www.slideshare.net/ProductNation/data-empowerment-protection-architecture-depa Electronic Consent Framework http://dla.gov.in/sites/default/files/pdf/MeitY-Consent-Tech-Framework%20v1.1.pdf

jadhavajay (Wed, 12 Jun 2019 17:15:14 GMT):
WHAT IS INDIA STACK? https://indiastack.org/about/ Data Empowerment & Protection Architecture (DEPA) https://www.slideshare.net/ProductNation/data-empowerment-protection-architecture-depa Electronic Consent Framework http://dla.gov.in/sites/default/files/pdf/MeitY-Consent-Tech-Framework%20v1.1.pdf

VipinB (Thu, 13 Jun 2019 10:55:47 GMT):
@here Great call yesterday with special thanks to @luca.boldrin and @jadhavajay for their excellent presentations. We will have the recordings and meeting minutes up soon thanks to @toddgehrke for stepping in and recording.

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VipinB (Wed, 19 Jun 2019 15:30:41 GMT):
@here notes for last week's ID WG call are here https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-06-12-Notes

VipinB (Wed, 19 Jun 2019 15:31:52 GMT):
Special thanks to @luca.boldrin and @jadhavajay for their presentations. We also have the links to the meeting recordings (audio and video)

VipinB (Wed, 19 Jun 2019 15:32:46 GMT):
Special plea to update your contact info on the attendees list and add yourself if you are missing.

bonifaaa (Tue, 25 Jun 2019 15:12:45 GMT):
@VipinB is there a target date to complete the Whitepaper?

VipinB (Tue, 25 Jun 2019 22:41:47 GMT):
@bonifaaa are you volunteering for a section. Add your text as a comment and I will incorporate into the body.

VipinB (Tue, 25 Jun 2019 22:42:17 GMT):
We aim to finish by the end of the year; it will be a live doc anyway.

VipinB (Tue, 25 Jun 2019 22:44:22 GMT):
@here announcing June 26th call of the IDWG at 12 noon EST 16:00 UTC All are welcome! The tentative Agenda is: (see https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-06-26 for the latest) Ajay Jadhav continues to lead discussion on India Consent Layer Daniel Hardman presents a paper: "Hubs and Agents how do they work together" The paper has been created by Evernym and DiF Libra and its Identity system Further discussion on FATF recommendations Items that do not get handled will be moved to the following call (July 10) The purpose of the Identity Working Group is to discuss, research, and document ways to capture, store, transmit and use Identities on the DLT, specifically for the projects under the Hyperledger umbrella. The Identities can be of nodes that participate in the running of the DLT or entities that transact on the DLT. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Meeting minutes & Agenda in one: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-06-26 You need a LF ID to login to edit. You do not need a LFID to read passively. All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. Please reach out if you have questions, attend the call, participate to collaborate!

szewong (Wed, 26 Jun 2019 13:12:04 GMT):
@VipinB are there only one call at noon EST

VipinB (Wed, 26 Jun 2019 14:07:25 GMT):
Yes @szewong, we will have two calls later in the year, there were instances when there were only 3 people (including myself) on the APAC call. Will reboot later.

szewong (Wed, 26 Jun 2019 14:42:45 GMT):
Ok

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VipinB (Mon, 08 Jul 2019 21:18:49 GMT):
@here announcing July 10th call of the IDWG at 12 noon EST 16:00 UTC All are welcome! The tentative Agenda is: (see https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-07-10 for the latest) Indy WG comes back to the mothership- possible merger into Identity WG: a proposal by Nathan George. Timo Hotti on Integrating a DID network with a Transaction Network: a case study from Finland Next steps: the paper: "Hubs and Agents how do they work together" Progress of Identity WG paper Libra and its Identity system Further discussion on FATF recommendations Items that do not get handled will be moved to the following call (July 24) The purpose of the Identity Working Group is to discuss, research, and document ways to capture, store, transmit and use Identities on the DLT, specifically for the projects under the Hyperledger umbrella. The Identities can be of nodes that participate in the running of the DLT or entities that transact on the DLT. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Meeting minutes & Agenda in one: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-07-10 You need a LF ID to login to edit. You do not need a LFID to read passively. All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznpThis is an open call. Please reach out if you have questions, attend the call, participate to collaborate!

drummondreed (Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:02:06 GMT):
Vipin, I am stuck on another call so I'll be about 10 mins late to the meeting.

nage (Thu, 11 Jul 2019 20:44:10 GMT):
For anyone looking to start something in the SSI space http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2019/07/11/1881713/0/en/Technology-Innovators-Launch-New-Incubator-to-Accelerate-Adoption-of-Self-Sovereign-Identity.html

VipinB (Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:20:06 GMT):
@here Draft quarterly report of the IDWG available here https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/HYP/2019+Q3+Identity+WG- comments, feedback welcome.

VipinB (Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:20:06 GMT):
@here Draft quarterly report of the IDWG available here https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/HYP/2019+Q3+Identity+WG- comments, feedback welcome. Will submit next week incorporating feedback.

VipinB (Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:20:06 GMT):
@here Draft quarterly report of the IDWG available here https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/HYP/2019+Q3+Identity+WG comments, feedback welcome. Will submit next week incorporating feedback.

danielhardman (Fri, 12 Jul 2019 14:25:03 GMT):
@VipinB , the URI that you pasted appears to have an extra char in it (the trailing -) that breaks it. If you remove the -, it works. I added a couple hyperlinks to the text. Looks great! I hadn't known about the CHAOSS effort to formalize metrics. That's cool.

VipinB (Fri, 12 Jul 2019 14:26:45 GMT):
Fixed the trailing - Thanks for that

VipinB (Fri, 12 Jul 2019 14:29:35 GMT):
Sounds great, now in the hundreds of thousands, millions and billions later.

VipinB (Sat, 13 Jul 2019 02:44:01 GMT):
@here There is an excellent update on privacy schemas in the DPV working group in W3C (https://www.w3.org/ns/dpv ) presentation by @harshvardhanPandit condensing the doc : https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1qQIdIxpkPdldS_RR7x8L2ZAq3plse9yd-WxcFZgBjY0/edit#slide=id.gc6f9e470d_0_126, it is relevant for Identity schemas

VipinB (Sat, 13 Jul 2019 02:44:30 GMT):
Was fortunate to attend call of #indy-semantics

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VipinB (Tue, 16 Jul 2019 13:22:45 GMT):
@here last call for comments and updates to the quarterly TSC update. We will close comments by the EOW and send it out for asynchronous approval to the TSC. In case anyone wants to represent the IDWG in the TSC report, please volunteer.

VipinB (Tue, 16 Jul 2019 13:23:37 GMT):
Reference is https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/HYP/2019+Q3+Identity+WG

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VipinB (Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:26:24 GMT):
@here Released https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/HYP/2019+Q3+Identity+WG : our quarterly report to TSC

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nage (Thu, 18 Jul 2019 18:42:40 GMT):
The implementation work for identity inside of Hyperledger has gotten to a point where there is a significant amount of cross-project collaboration. In particular we have a lot of Indy+Aries+Ursa discussions about API surfaces, release planning and use cases that has always been going on in the Thursday Indy WG call. Since the nature of that collaboration now spans multiple projects with the three we mentioned, we are moving that call underneath the Identity WG's management and officially opening it up to all Identity Implementation work (we didn't want it to distract from the higher-level whitepaper or use case work already going on in the bi-weekly call we have now). So if you're writing identity code for a Hyperledger project, or anything that intends to be interoperable with a Hyperledger project, please join us for the first Identity Implementers call next Thursday at 9 AM mountain time. We will be discussing whether to have the call every week or every other week, and looking for any other working groups from the projects that would like to report status or discuss progress.

VipinB (Tue, 23 Jul 2019 03:16:14 GMT):
@here July 20 12 noon EST (16:00 UTC) Please attend call for the latest Identity related topics in Hyperledger and beyond! Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# You need a Linux Foundation ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: Antitrust Policy and introductions - 3 minutes - VB Quarterly Report to the TSC - 1 minute - VB Bridges between Blockchain based systems and Enterprise IAM Systems - 5 minutes VB Stephen Curran OpenIDConnect Identity Provider - 10-15 minutes, plus questions and answers Indy WG comes back to the mothership call on Thursday is now Identity WG Implementer call The paper: "Hubs and Agents how do they work together" - published now - announcement Progress of Identity Working Group paper. sticking points Libra and its Identity system zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznp

VipinB (Tue, 23 Jul 2019 03:16:14 GMT):
@here July 20 12 noon EST (16:00 UTC) Please attend call for the latest Identity related topics in Hyperledger and beyond! Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# You need a Linux Foundation ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-07-24 Antitrust Policy and introductions - 3 minutes - VB Quarterly Report to the TSC - 1 minute - VB Bridges between Blockchain based systems and Enterprise IAM Systems - 5 minutes VB Stephen Curran OpenIDConnect Identity Provider - 10-15 minutes, plus questions and answers Indy WG comes back to the mothership call on Thursday is now Identity WG Implementer call The paper: "Hubs and Agents how do they work together" - published now - announcement Progress of Identity Working Group paper. sticking points Libra and its Identity system zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznp

VipinB (Tue, 23 Jul 2019 03:16:14 GMT):
@here July 24 12 noon EST (16:00 UTC) Please attend call for the latest Identity related topics in Hyperledger and beyond! Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community All are welcome. You do not have to be a member of Hyperledger to be on the call! The paper is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExFNRx-yYoS8FnDIUX1_0UBMha9TvQkfts2kVnDc4KE/edit# You need a Linux Foundation ID to login to edit. To read passively you do not need a LFID Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-07-24 Antitrust Policy and introductions - 3 minutes - VB Quarterly Report to the TSC - 1 minute - VB Bridges between Blockchain based systems and Enterprise IAM Systems - 5 minutes VB Stephen Curran OpenIDConnect Identity Provider - 10-15 minutes, plus questions and answers Indy WG comes back to the mothership call on Thursday is now Identity WG Implementer call The paper: "Hubs and Agents how do they work together" - published now - announcement Progress of Identity Working Group paper. sticking points Libra and its Identity system zoom details iPhone one-tap : US: +16465588656,,4034983298# or +16699006833,,4034983298# Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 646 558 8656 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 855 880 1246 (Toll Free) or +1 877 369 0926 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 403 498 3298 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/bAaJoyznp

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VipinB (Tue, 23 Jul 2019 18:28:36 GMT):
@here If you remember, we had Daniel Hardman present on this paper at an Identity WG call. Created jointly by Daniel Hardman, Sam Curren & Daniel Buchner, the paper was well received during the call by the members of the Identity WG community. We also made several suggestions for improvement many of which were accepted by the authors. In addition Luca Boldrin contributed a diagram to this effort. Please note that this is now jointly published on the Hyperledger website as well as the DIF site as a tech explainer. https://www.hyperledger.org/blog/2019/07/23/rhythm-and-melody-how-hubs-and-agents-rock-together This demonstrates our commitment to collaborate with DIF and speaks to the aim of the Identity WG to be a platform for open source practitioners in Digital identity. Congratulations to all who participated in this effort!.

jljordan_bcgov (Tue, 23 Jul 2019 23:20:02 GMT):
Hi Fellow Community Members! We, the folks from the BC gov VON (https://vonx.io) team, would like to share an opportunity with members of open communities to work with us to do some focused collaboration around mobile agent, Aries agents and aries-cloudagent-python interoperability. We have a pilot production service planned for a significant professional accreditation organization within our province coming up in the fall. This pilot has a requirement for mobile agents to be able to hold and offer verifiable credentials issued and verified by services operating instances of aries-cloudagent-python. Details are in this Open Collaboration MOU: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GPZ4p4zM36AN3DcHJ13s_IisSrT4F3S0 More details around the use case and how we intend to work with the community are in the document. Our offer is to work closely, in the open, with groups that we believe are close to having a releasable mobile agent such that their agent could be one of the listed compatible agents when this new service goes live. Our expectation is for the production pilot to occur this fall. If you are interested and think you have a mobile agent that is close to release, please review this Open Collaboration MOU, and contact us via Hyperledger Rocket.Chat or via my email available in the MOU. We would expect to have all participates identified with signed MOUs by Aug 6th 2019.

VipinB (Wed, 24 Jul 2019 15:51:37 GMT):
@here We start the IDWG call in 9 minutes

VipinB (Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:10:19 GMT):
@here Thanks for the great call. We will update and make the meeting notes available.

VipinB (Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:51:36 GMT):
https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-07-24 meeting minutes @here

nage (Thu, 25 Jul 2019 14:36:38 GMT):
I now have the Implementers call wiki page setup https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-07-25+Identity+WG+Implementers+Call

nage (Thu, 25 Jul 2019 14:36:50 GMT):
the call starts after the TSC discussion wraps up

VipinB (Thu, 25 Jul 2019 14:43:09 GMT):
I have added a link to the wiki page in IDWG

VipinB (Thu, 25 Jul 2019 14:43:09 GMT):
I have added a link to the wiki page in IDWG wiki page

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VipinB (Thu, 25 Jul 2019 15:02:47 GMT):
What is the zoom channel @nage

nage (Thu, 25 Jul 2019 15:03:03 GMT):
https://zoom.us/j/232861185

VipinB (Thu, 25 Jul 2019 15:03:10 GMT):
It is not on the wiki page

nage (Thu, 25 Jul 2019 15:03:26 GMT):
(the same as it has always been for the Indy WG call for those who still have the old appointment)

VipinB (Thu, 25 Jul 2019 15:04:10 GMT):
OK, thnks

VipinB (Thu, 25 Jul 2019 15:04:18 GMT):
I am on!

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dbluhm (Wed, 31 Jul 2019 20:21:58 GMT):
Identity WG Implementers call is happening tomorrow! @SteveGoob will be demoing the Indy GitLab CI/CD Migration and we'll have time for open discussion. If anyone has other topics they'd like to bring up on the call tomorrow, let me know! @rchristman has graciously volunteered to host the call for us. Agenda (Zoom link, call time, and meeting notes included): https://wiki.hyperledger.org/x/ehP5

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rchristman (Thu, 01 Aug 2019 13:37:04 GMT):
Thanks!

dbluhm (Thu, 01 Aug 2019 14:37:44 GMT):
Apologies; last minute Zoom room changes for the Implementers call (happening in about 20 minutes). The updated link can be found on the Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/x/ehP5

SteveGoob (Thu, 01 Aug 2019 16:10:37 GMT):
Here's the link to the pipeline we demonstrated: https://gitlab.com/stevegoob/indy-sdk/pipelines/74195354

SteveGoob (Thu, 01 Aug 2019 16:10:52 GMT):
I'm happy to answer any questions people might have about it!

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VipinB (Sun, 04 Aug 2019 13:20:13 GMT):
@here Next call of IDWG on Wed the 7th of August at 12 noon EDT (16:00 UTC) The Agenda is: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-08-07 Please add items to the Agenda. We need 1. A volunteer to report on the Identity WG Implementer call on the 1st 2. A volunteer to report on the Tokyo summit, especially Identity related developments. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Ajay or Ravikant, if you can report on IOT Identities that will be great as well.

VipinB (Sun, 04 Aug 2019 13:20:13 GMT):
@here Next call of IDWG on Wed the 7th of August at 12 noon EDT (16:00 UTC) The Agenda is: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-08-07 Please add items to the Agenda. We need 1. A volunteer to report on the Identity WG Implementer call on the 1st 2. A volunteer to report on the Tokyo summit, especially Identity related developments. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community @jadhavajay or @xragrawal , if you can report on IOT Identities that will be great as well. @nitin.agarwal please see sections on Aadhaar in the paper. We will rework with the latest developments.

VipinB (Wed, 07 Aug 2019 13:06:19 GMT):
@dbluhm or anyone else from the Identity Implementers WG, if you would like to talk about the last call in the Identity WG call today, please show up. @here anyone else who has been at the members summit please report Identity related work on the call. Please put yourself on the Agenda if you have additional items.

dbluhm (Wed, 07 Aug 2019 13:26:34 GMT):
@VipinB I'll review the Implementers call

VipinB (Wed, 07 Aug 2019 13:38:50 GMT):
I will put you in on the Agenda

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dbluhm (Thu, 08 Aug 2019 13:22:48 GMT):
The Hyperledger calendar appointment for the Implementers call should now be accurate :slight_smile:

esplinr (Thu, 08 Aug 2019 14:22:51 GMT):
Thank you!

dbluhm (Mon, 12 Aug 2019 14:06:01 GMT):
The recording for the Implementers call for 2019-08-01 has been uploaded. Sorry for the delay! You can find it at the bottom meeting notes: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/x/ehP5

dbluhm (Mon, 12 Aug 2019 14:06:01 GMT):
The recording for the Implementers call for 2019-08-01 has been uploaded. Sorry for the delay! You can find it at the bottom of the meeting notes: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/x/ehP5

VipinB (Mon, 12 Aug 2019 14:28:09 GMT):
@here Notes of Identity WG call for 2019-08-07 https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-08-07 updated; meeting recordings have been uploaded.

dbluhm (Thu, 15 Aug 2019 14:45:17 GMT):
Identity WG Implementer's call will be starting in about 15 minutes! Vladimir Shishkin of Evernym will be talking about Indy performance testing after our regular project updates. Meeting agenda with zoom link: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/x/zhP5

VipinB (Thu, 15 Aug 2019 14:46:15 GMT):
@here we should add Identity Implementers call folks into the list of electors for TSC, if they are regulars.

nage (Thu, 15 Aug 2019 14:54:19 GMT):
agreed, there are handful of regular call contributors who may not be listed as code committers

nage (Thu, 15 Aug 2019 14:54:41 GMT):
"/msg" me if you think that applies to you

dbluhm (Thu, 15 Aug 2019 17:27:36 GMT):
Call recording for the implementers call has been posted! You can find it attached at the bottom of the meeting notes: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/x/zhP5

VipinB (Sun, 18 Aug 2019 16:14:48 GMT):
@here looking for items for this week's IDWG Agenda please add more here.. https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-08-21

VipinB (Sun, 18 Aug 2019 16:22:56 GMT):
@here proposed agenda: Goals-Agenda Antitrust Policy and introductions - VB Identity WG Implementer call-report - Daniel Bluhm SISIG and the Identity WG Andres Bonifacio Implementing metrics from Chaoss... DCIWG Progress of Identity Working Group paper. sticking points Aadhaar section-look at reworked areas Paper collaboration during RWOT- Marta Piekarska Report from Tokyo member's summit- Nathan George Libra and its Identity system - VB presentation and discussion

KellyCooper (Sun, 18 Aug 2019 16:58:54 GMT):
Progress of Identity Working Group paper. sticking points = rather than sticking points, might be good to identify

KellyCooper (Sun, 18 Aug 2019 16:58:54 GMT):
Progress of Identity Working Group paper. sticking points = rather than sticking points, might be good to identify completed sections, to narrow down and identify where to move on. Same thing; however, with identified completed sections I can do a final copyedit for readability and for appearance (spacing, headings, etc).

KellyCooper (Sun, 18 Aug 2019 16:58:54 GMT):
Progress of Identity Working Group paper. sticking points = rather than sticking points, might be good to identify completed sections. Same thing; however, with identified completed sections I can do a final copyedit for readability and for appearance (spacing, headings, etc). I can note as such and add comments where the document needs further attention or organization.

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adamstallard (Wed, 21 Aug 2019 18:49:07 GMT):
Hi all

VipinB (Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:42:55 GMT):
@here Yesterday's meeting notes are in https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-08-07 includes audio and video recordings as well. Thanks to Kelly for taking notes...

VipinB (Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:42:55 GMT):
@here Yesterday's meeting notes are in https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-08-21 includes audio and video recordings as well. Thanks to Kelly for taking notes...

dbluhm (Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:33:23 GMT):
Identity WG Implementers Call will be happening in about an hour and half! Agenda: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/x/MSD5 We will have our project updates with a more in depth update on the Aries SDK Architecture discussions. If you have other topics you would like to add to the agenda, feel free to edit the agenda yourself or contact me or @nage.

nage (Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:02:45 GMT):
https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-08-29+Identity+WG+Implementers+Call

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VipinB (Wed, 04 Sep 2019 15:58:15 GMT):
Call is happening in the next 2 minutes @here

VipinB (Wed, 04 Sep 2019 20:23:01 GMT):
@here meeting minutes including recordings are in https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-09-04 . Thanks to Kelly for scribing and all who showed up for making for an interesting session. If you are eligible to vote in the TSC election and have not voted, please remember to vote (look for Ry Jones' targeted email for polling)

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nage (Thu, 12 Sep 2019 14:31:06 GMT):
https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-09-12+Identity+WG+Implementers+Call If you have anything to add to today's call agenda, please jump in and edit the wiki page

VipinB (Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:41:31 GMT):
@here Please have a look at the Agenda. All are welcome to add items to the Agenda or respond on the mailing list. https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-09-18 Agenda Antitrust Policy and introductions - VB Identity WG Implementer call - report - Daniel Bluhm Meeting Notes 2019-09-12 Identity WG Implementers Call Working groups- purpose and governance under the TSC Sybil Protection in Hyperledger technologies- led by @Adam Stallard- in his absence Vipin will lead Kiva - current status. At the eve of the UNGA- any one from Kiva (Matt Raffel or Cam Parra?) Implementing metrics from Chaoss... DCIWG Progress of Identity Working Group paper. sticking points Aadhaar section-look at reworked areas Paper collaboration - Marta Piekarska

VipinB (Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:41:31 GMT):
@here Call tomorrow at 12 noon EDT (16:00 UTC) on 2019-09-18 https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Please have a look at the Agenda. All are welcome to add items to the Agenda or respond on the mailing list. https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-09-18 Agenda Antitrust Policy and introductions - VB Identity WG Implementer call - report - Daniel Bluhm Meeting Notes 2019-09-12 Identity WG Implementers Call Working groups- purpose and governance under the TSC Sybil Protection in Hyperledger technologies- led by @Adam Stallard- in his absence Vipin will lead Kiva - current status. At the eve of the UNGA- any one from Kiva (Matt Raffel or Cam Parra?) Implementing metrics from Chaoss... DCIWG Progress of Identity Working Group paper. sticking points = Aadhaar section-look at reworked areas Paper collaboration - Marta Piekarska

dbluhm (Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:47:50 GMT):
@VipinB I was not present at the last Identity WG Implementers call so I'm probably not the best one to report on that this week

VipinB (Tue, 17 Sep 2019 21:39:09 GMT):
No problem @dbluhm if no one else reports I will, I was present, but only in the last 30 minutes or so

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dbluhm (Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:04:31 GMT):
Identity WG Implementers call happening now: https://zoom.us/j/232861185

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VipinB (Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:20:11 GMT):
@here Call tomorrow at 12 noon EDT (16:00 UTC) on 2019-10-02 https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Please have a look at the Agenda. All are welcome to add items to the Agenda or respond on the mailing list. https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-10-02 - Antitrust Policy and introductions - VB - Identity WG Implementer call - report - - Meeting Notes 2019-09-26 Identity WG Implementers Call @dbluhm or anyone who was on the call - HGF Call for papers extended to this Friday - A Report on the newly setup DID WG in W3C @brentzundel : activities, goals, roadmap - ID2020: What happened and why is it important Vipin Bharathan - Kiva - current status. After the UNGA- any one from Kiva (Matt Raffel or Cam Parra?) - Implementing metrics from Chaoss... DCIWG - Progress of Identity Working Group paper. sticking points =Aadhaar section-look at reworked areas - Paper collaboration - @KellyCooper, @MartaPiekarska, @szewong - A talk by Kim Cameron in the offing.

VipinB (Wed, 02 Oct 2019 13:35:38 GMT):
@here call in a couple of hours Agenda with more links: Agenda Antitrust Policy and introductions - VB Identity WG Implementer call - report - Meeting Notes 2019-09-26 Identity WG Implementers Call Daniel Bluhm or anyone who was on the call HGF Call for papers extended to this Friday A Report on the newly setup DID WG in W3C Brent Zundel: activities, goals, roadmap ID2020: What happened and why is it important Vipin Bharathan Kiva - current status. After the UNGA- any one from Kiva (Matt Raffel or Cam Parra?) Implementing metrics from Chaoss... DCIWG Progress of Identity Working Group paper. sticking points Aadhaar section-look at reworked areas Paper collaboration - Marta Piekarska, Kelly Cooper, Sze Wong A talk by Kim Cameron in the offing.

VipinB (Wed, 02 Oct 2019 13:35:38 GMT):
@here call in a couple of hours Agenda with more links: Agenda https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-10-02 Antitrust Policy and introductions - VB Identity WG Implementer call - report - Meeting Notes 2019-09-26 Identity WG Implementers Call Daniel Bluhm or anyone who was on the call HGF Call for papers extended to this Friday A Report on the newly setup DID WG in W3C Brent Zundel: activities, goals, roadmap ID2020: What happened and why is it important Vipin Bharathan Kiva - current status. After the UNGA- any one from Kiva (Matt Raffel or Cam Parra?) Implementing metrics from Chaoss... DCIWG Progress of Identity Working Group paper. sticking points Aadhaar section-look at reworked areas Paper collaboration - Marta Piekarska, Kelly Cooper, Sze Wong A talk by Kim Cameron in the offing.

VipinB (Wed, 02 Oct 2019 20:45:18 GMT):
@here Latest meeting minutes https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-10-02 with all audio and video recordings available Thanks to @brentzundel

cam-parra (Thu, 03 Oct 2019 03:10:04 GMT):
Sorry wasn’t able to make this. Still pretty busy with IIW

VipinB (Thu, 03 Oct 2019 12:34:53 GMT):
Was one of the items in our notes "Thin attendance due to IIW" @cam-parra please talk to us about how Kiva's Sierra Leone Project is going

cam-parra (Thu, 03 Oct 2019 17:43:06 GMT):
Kiva SL is going great. Our team is polishing up certain identity pieces and studying up on how credit and identity can work safely. Not sure about UNGA. I am told that there are important statements made at 1:05:30

cam-parra (Thu, 03 Oct 2019 17:43:07 GMT):
http://webtv.un.org/search/part-2-high-level-dialogue-on-financing-for-development-general-assembly-74th-session/6090062889001/?term=2019-09-26&sort=date

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VipinB (Tue, 08 Oct 2019 16:03:20 GMT):
Please present at next Identity WG meeting October 16 noon EDT, @cam-parra, @MattRaffel , @matthewdavie on Kive SL, IIW (if you were there) and UNGA - (in decreasing order of relevance to you guys)

VipinB (Tue, 08 Oct 2019 16:03:20 GMT):
Please present at next Identity WG meeting October 16 noon EDT, @cam-parra, @MattRaffel , @matthewdavie on Kiva SL, IIW (if you were there) and UNGA - (in decreasing order of relevance to you guys)

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esplinr (Thu, 10 Oct 2019 15:07:20 GMT):
Identity Implementers call is starting: https://zoom.us/j/232861185

dbluhm (Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:12:26 GMT):
Thanks for joining the call everyone; I'll get the recording posted to the meeting notes shortly.

dbluhm (Thu, 10 Oct 2019 17:11:16 GMT):
Recording posted; you'll find it at the bottom of them meeting notes here: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/x/1I4xAQ

VipinB (Mon, 14 Oct 2019 19:15:40 GMT):
@here https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/HYP/2019+Q4+Identity+WG TSc report also covers Implementers call. Please review and modify (if needed)

VipinB (Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:51:56 GMT):
@here call in less than 10 minutes Call on zoom https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community See meeting notes for latest Agenda and to comment or add items. https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-10-16 Proposed Agenda (Items that are remaining will be moved to next week) Antitrust Policy and introductions - VB Identity WG Implementer call - report - Meeting Notes 2019-10-10 Identity WG Implementers Call Daniel Bluhm or Richard Esplin or anyone who was on the call TSC Report Report on IIW Nathan George David Huseby Daniel Hardman or anyone who was there Consent in Hyperledger Aries @janl and its relation to other consent efforts (India Consent Layer) ID2020: What happened and why is it important Vipin Bharathan Kiva - current status. After the UNGA- any one from Kiva (Matt Raffel or Cam Parra ) Implementing metrics from Chaoss... DCIWG Progress of Identity Working Group paper. Further comments by Brent Zundel Aadhaar section-look at reworked areas Paper collaboration - Marta Piekarska, Kelly Cooper, Sze Wong A talk by Kim Cameron in the offing. Please attend the call and/or collaborate on the wiki mailing list etc.

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VipinB (Wed, 16 Oct 2019 17:10:31 GMT):
@here Notes have been updated see https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-10-16 for details Notes: Jan Lundqvist gave a teaser on the RFC Consent in Hyperledger Aries . The paper consists of :  An ontology - terms that are relevant and objects that are built up from these terms Legal compliance standards How can DID based systems implement a consent lifecyle A reference implementation of a lifecycle Consent certificate + proof Process Flow Jan says the paper should be properly called the enforcement of a Privacy Agreement We spoke briefly of the following hard problems Hierarchy of sharing (what if the original relying party (RP) sells or shares the information to another party) and so on? Selective disclosure, granularity and quality of information shared (derived information like age boundary-i.e. older than x, younger than y from birthday) Meta data harvesting (IP addresses, location) and creating correlations Bankruptcy and delegation of control of privacy proof  Forgetting: what sort of regulation should control this Common themes and ideas around sovereign or multi-state regulations (like GDPR, India Consent Layer, CCA, New York state privacy, Chinese regulation on consent) and how to implement them, are there patterns code snippets libraries Some techniques proposed on the Semantics call Adding masking layers for psuedonimisation Metadata turns up as machine readable quasi-identifiers- what to do about this Jan agreed to do a demo of the reference lifecycle in a future meeting- we will publicize this and hopefully we will have greater participation.

VipinB (Wed, 16 Oct 2019 17:10:31 GMT):
@here Notes have been updated see https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-10-16 for details Notes: Jan Linquist gave a teaser on the RFC Consent in Hyperledger Aries . The paper consists of :  An ontology - terms that are relevant and objects that are built up from these terms Legal compliance standards How can DID based systems implement a consent lifecyle A reference implementation of a lifecycle Consent certificate + proof Process Flow Jan says the paper should be properly called the enforcement of a Privacy Agreement We spoke briefly of the following hard problems Hierarchy of sharing (what if the original relying party (RP) sells or shares the information to another party) and so on? Selective disclosure, granularity and quality of information shared (derived information like age boundary-i.e. older than x, younger than y from birthday) Meta data harvesting (IP addresses, location) and creating correlations Bankruptcy and delegation of control of privacy proof  Forgetting: what sort of regulation should control this Common themes and ideas around sovereign or multi-state regulations (like GDPR, India Consent Layer, CCA, New York state privacy, Chinese regulation on consent) and how to implement them, are there patterns code snippets libraries Some techniques proposed on the Semantics call Adding masking layers for psuedonimisation Metadata turns up as machine readable quasi-identifiers- what to do about this Jan agreed to do a demo of the reference lifecycle in a future meeting- we will publicize this and hopefully we will have greater participation.

VipinB (Wed, 16 Oct 2019 17:10:31 GMT):
@here Notes have been updated see https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-10-16 for details Notes: Jan Lindquist gave a teaser on the RFC Consent in Hyperledger Aries . The paper consists of :  An ontology - terms that are relevant and objects that are built up from these terms Legal compliance standards How can DID based systems implement a consent lifecyle A reference implementation of a lifecycle Consent certificate + proof Process Flow Jan says the paper should be properly called the enforcement of a Privacy Agreement We spoke briefly of the following hard problems Hierarchy of sharing (what if the original relying party (RP) sells or shares the information to another party) and so on? Selective disclosure, granularity and quality of information shared (derived information like age boundary-i.e. older than x, younger than y from birthday) Meta data harvesting (IP addresses, location) and creating correlations Bankruptcy and delegation of control of privacy proof  Forgetting: what sort of regulation should control this Common themes and ideas around sovereign or multi-state regulations (like GDPR, India Consent Layer, CCA, New York state privacy, Chinese regulation on consent) and how to implement them, are there patterns code snippets libraries Some techniques proposed on the Semantics call Adding masking layers for psuedonimisation Metadata turns up as machine readable quasi-identifiers- what to do about this Jan agreed to do a demo of the reference lifecycle in a future meeting- we will publicize this and hopefully we will have greater participation.

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KellyCooper (Mon, 21 Oct 2019 15:31:05 GMT):
Regarding the Identity white paper. We discussed looking at sections to consider 'complete' until final whole paper review. We discussed moving the Google Doc into Confluence. Shall I move it over or ? Due to a rapidly changing environment, rather than call it a white paper, is it more a snapshot of current interpretation. To be reworked once per year?

KellyCooper (Mon, 21 Oct 2019 15:31:05 GMT):
Regarding the Identity white paper. We discussed looking at sections to consider 'complete' until the final whole paper review. We discussed moving the Google Doc into Confluence. Shall I move it over or? Due to a rapidly changing environment, rather than call it a white paper, is it more a snapshot of current interpretation? To be reworked once per year?

KellyCooper (Mon, 21 Oct 2019 15:31:05 GMT):
@VipinB Regarding the Identity white paper. We discussed looking at sections to consider 'complete' until the final whole paper review. We discussed moving the Google Doc into Confluence. Shall I move it over or? Due to a rapidly changing environment, rather than call it a white paper, is it more a snapshot of current interpretation? To be reworked once per year?

KellyCooper (Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:14:36 GMT):
@VipinB Setting up link in Indy Implementers for white paper review. I will note gap areas for their review.

KellyCooper (Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:14:36 GMT):
@VipinB Setting up link in Indy Implementers for white paper review. I will note gap areas for their review.

VipinB (Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:39:08 GMT):
Thanks @KellyCooper

VipinB (Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:39:19 GMT):
We have asked for github repo

VipinB (Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:39:39 GMT):
We need some committers !

KellyCooper (Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:41:00 GMT):
@VipinB When the repo is set up I can move the paper there if you like.

VipinB (Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:43:02 GMT):
We need a set of committers/maintainers

VipinB (Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:43:38 GMT):
Let us discuss in the next meeting...

VipinB (Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:44:35 GMT):
Indy implementers call is today?

KellyCooper (Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:51:20 GMT):
Y, now.

KellyCooper (Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:51:20 GMT):
@VipinB Y, finishing up now. I asked them to review, added the GoogleDocs link to the minutes.

szewong (Mon, 28 Oct 2019 17:59:40 GMT):
@VipinB I won't be able to make tomorrow's meeting. @KellyCooper Let's catch up on the paper at some point.

VipinB (Mon, 28 Oct 2019 19:13:15 GMT):
It is not tomorrow. My bad it is Wednesday the 30th @szewong

szewong (Mon, 28 Oct 2019 21:08:21 GMT):
LOL, right, I'm out on Wednesday

VipinB (Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:45:40 GMT):
@here Call in 15 minutes on https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-10-30 for todays agenda and notes... The wiki page has live links... Agenda: Antitrust Policy and introductions - VB Identity WG Implementer call - report - Meeting Notes 2019-10-24 Identity WG Implementers Call Daniel Bluhmor Richard Esplin or anyone who was on the call Discuss IDWG paper & Implementor's WG A github repo was created under hyperledger for IDWG; Let us discuss the governance of it. This is mostly to house our paper, we will also create more outputs from our group. Ideas are welcome. Reframing data protection @Elizabeth Reneiris Report on IIW Nathan George David Huseby Daniel Hardman or anyone who was there ID2020: What happened and why is it important Vipin Bharathan Kiva - current status. After the UNGA- any one from Kiva (Matt Raffel or Cam Parra ) Implementing metrics from Chaoss... DCIWG- let us discuss. Progress of Identity Working Group paper. Further comments by Brent Zundel Aadhaar section-look at reworked areas Paper collaboration - Marta Piekarska, Kelly Cooper, Sze Wong A talk by Kim Cameron in the offing.

VipinB (Wed, 30 Oct 2019 18:33:27 GMT):
@here https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-10-30 has the latest notes and recordings. It was a great call.

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raghu_kotha (Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:06:24 GMT):
Hi Team, my name is Raghu Kotha and I like this initiation and hope I can contribute.

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raghu_kotha (Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:18:30 GMT):
I know there other DLT based Identity initiations, like Civic, uPort and OIX. Is this group considering those?

VipinB (Tue, 12 Nov 2019 15:47:43 GMT):
Yes we have links into some of these (Not Civic yet) but we have had extensive discussions on uPort when we started. Not OIX either. Care to talk about this?

drummondreed (Wed, 13 Nov 2019 08:09:45 GMT):
@VipinB I know I haven't made a call the past few months but my calendar shows I could actually do that tomorrow morning (Nov 13) if there's actually a call tomorrow. But I don't see any announcement. Are you having one?

VipinB (Wed, 13 Nov 2019 14:44:40 GMT):
Yes, sent it out on the mailing list

VipinB (Wed, 13 Nov 2019 14:45:21 GMT):
Would like you to say something about the whole Sovrin efforts to promote governance as well as any details on Aries

VipinB (Wed, 13 Nov 2019 14:49:13 GMT):
@here Call today (Nov. 13) at 12 noon EST (17:00 UTC) The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Latest : https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-11-13 Calls are usually recorded. Current proposed Agenda Antitrust Policy and introductions - VB Identity WG Implementer call - report - Meeting Notes 2019-11-07+Identity+WG+Implementers+Call Daniel Bluhmor Richard Esplin or anyone who was on the call Discuss IDWG paper Aadhaar section-look at reworked areas - Nitin Agarwal/Kaliya Young Short talk on FATF beneficial ownership paper. ID2020: What happened and why is it important Vipin Bharathan uPort LEI PoC using verified credentials A github repo was created under hyperledger for IDWG; Details to follow. Kiva - current status. After the UNGA- any one from Kiva (Matt Raffel or Cam Parra ) Implementing metrics from Chaoss... DCIWG- let us discuss. Future talks (we are working with some of these folks on nailing down dates) FATF guidance on digital Identity (Stephane Mouy) on the 27th of Nov. A talk by Kim Cameron . A Talk by Darrell O'Donnell on Digital Wallets A talk by Nitin Agarwal on India consent layer - coincident with Jan L in the generic context.

KellyCooper (Wed, 13 Nov 2019 15:58:54 GMT):
@VipinB I can take notes

VipinB (Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:00:37 GMT):
Thanks @KellyCooper

drummondreed (Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:29:18 GMT):
Vipin, yes, I can speak to that. As usual I'll only have 30 mins.

drummondreed (Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:56:44 GMT):
Vipin, note, I will be 5 mins late as I need to go to yet ANOTHER call and tell them that I'm going to this one!

VipinB (Thu, 14 Nov 2019 14:28:06 GMT):
Thanks for the discussion on the three topics you spoke on @drummondreed

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drummondreed (Wed, 27 Nov 2019 08:16:08 GMT):
Vipin, my pleasure. Is there an Identity WG call tomorrow (Wed 11/27)?

VipinB (Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:28:13 GMT):
Yes @drummondreed

VipinB (Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:28:18 GMT):
Today

VipinB (Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:30:07 GMT):
@here Happy US Thanksgiving! A reminder that we are still holding our call. Call is on hyperledger zoom. The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community The Agenda has been set. Please take a look at it and suggest changes if any. https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-11-27 The main events: Talk on FATF Digital Identity Guidance. @Stephane Mouy -10 minutes with 3 for questions A talk by Nitin Agarwal on India stack: digital lockers & consent layer Expect to see you on the call, Vipin

drummondreed (Wed, 27 Nov 2019 16:22:28 GMT):
Great. As usual I can only make it for 30 mins. And I might be a little late due to the meeting before it.

VipinB (Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:45:18 GMT):
@here Please have a look at the minutes here: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-11-27 Please copy edit or change the minutes. The minutes have been updated with the latest recordings. Thanks to Kelly for the extensive minutes, including links and screen shots of both presentations. It was a really informative session. Thanks to the presenters: - Stephane Mouy who is an Identity expert and works in the European context for his remarks on Digital Identity recommendations of the FATF task force. -Nitin Agarwal Who has worked on the Digital Locker in India (part of the paperless layer) and is currently leading efforts on the consent layer (the youngest layer) Thanks to Kaliya Young, Dan Bachenheimer, Luca Boldrin, Drummond Reed and others for their questions and perspectives. Coming talks: Next call we will have Darrell O'Donnell present on Digital Wallets- SSI based and a different perspective. Nitin will present on the consent layer in Aadhaar. We discuss the challenges and issues with the current architecture of Digital Locker in the Aadhaar context and remediation of the running system within the applicable legal and governance framework.

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esplinr (Thu, 05 Dec 2019 16:05:11 GMT):
We are just getting started with the identity implementers call: https://zoom.us/j/232861185

esplinr (Thu, 05 Dec 2019 20:52:37 GMT):
Hyperledger has a new process for managing calendars. Administators of the mailing list group have the right to create calendar appointments. I requested to become an admin so that I could migrate the Identity WG Implementers call to the new calendar. I also cleaned up the HTML in the main Identity WG calendar appointment. Hopefully that helps you out @VipinB .

esplinr (Thu, 05 Dec 2019 22:02:31 GMT):
Also, we had a problem with the Zoom recording for the Identity WG Implementors call this morning, so while I moved the appointment between calendars I updated the Zoom room to one that Steve and I have host for.

drummondreed (Tue, 10 Dec 2019 18:21:04 GMT):
@VipinB Is there a call tomorrow (Wed Dec 11)? For some reason the calendar invite has dropped off my calendar.

VipinB (Tue, 10 Dec 2019 21:25:05 GMT):
Yes @drummondreed there is a call; I had followed the procedure that @esplinr outlined above; but about two weeks ago- Looks like it may not have worked . Have to check again

esplinr (Tue, 10 Dec 2019 21:26:11 GMT):
@drummondreed You were probably using the old Community Calendar.

esplinr (Tue, 10 Dec 2019 21:26:23 GMT):
The Hyperledger team have started removing the appointments from the old calendar as they are added to the new calendar.

esplinr (Tue, 10 Dec 2019 21:26:45 GMT):
You can confirm the appointments on the new calendar here: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/HYP/Calendar+of+Public+Meetings

esplinr (Tue, 10 Dec 2019 21:26:57 GMT):
@VipinB You can see that the Identity WG is correctly appearing there.

VipinB (Tue, 10 Dec 2019 23:26:35 GMT):
@here, Please find the Agenda here: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-12-11 for tomorrow's call. Make suggestions or comments on the wiki page or in a response to this email. The main event is a talk by Darrell O'Connell on digital wallets. This will likely last 30 minutes with adequate time for questions and answers. Call is on hyperledger zoom. The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Please attend to learn about or teach us the latest in Digital Wallets.

VipinB (Tue, 10 Dec 2019 23:26:35 GMT):
@here Tomorrow (December 11th) at 12 noon EST, 17:00 UTC Please find the Agenda here: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-12-11 for tomorrow's call. Make suggestions or comments on the wiki page or in a response to this email. The main event is a talk by Darrell O'Connell on digital wallets. This will likely last 30 minutes with adequate time for questions and answers. Call is on hyperledger zoom. The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Please attend to discuss the latest in Digital Wallets.

VipinB (Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:27:13 GMT):
@here call will start in approx 30 mins at 12 noon EST 17:00 UTC

VipinB (Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:27:28 GMT):
Zoom https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community

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VipinB (Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:56:57 GMT):
Main event @darrell.odonnell on Digital Wallets

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VipinB (Wed, 11 Dec 2019 18:25:27 GMT):
@here thanks for the robust participation and discussion on digital wallets. Thanks to @darrell.odonnell for his presentation

Silona (Wed, 11 Dec 2019 21:46:37 GMT):
Hello everyone - Do you know of a developer event that we would like to get some Hyperledger representation at? Please submit it here. The marketing committee will review them all as we go thru our budget for 2020 Thank you! - Silona

Silona (Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:01:51 GMT):
https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/Marketing/Developer+Events

darrell.odonnell (Thu, 12 Dec 2019 15:05:13 GMT):
Folks - thanks a ton for having me on the call yesterday! I really appreciated it!

VipinB (Fri, 13 Dec 2019 19:26:36 GMT):
@here Terrific attendance and great discussion on Digital Wallets with side excursions into ISO 307 etc on Wednesday's call. Thanks to Darrell O'Donnell for the presentation and Kelly Cooper for notes. I have added the audio and video recordings to the minutes. Until next year. Hopefully we will start the year off with a bang on Jan 8th with a talk by Kim Cameron. We need ideas on the format and content of the IDWG in the new year. Happy new year and a great solstice. https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-12-11

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esplinr (Thu, 19 Dec 2019 15:20:09 GMT):
The Identity Implementers WG call starts in 45 minutes. Please note that the Zoom link has changed. The correct link is in the community calendar and the meeting agenda: https://zoom.us/j/244779296

esplinr (Thu, 19 Dec 2019 15:22:50 GMT):
https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2019-12-19+Identity+WG+Implementers+Call

VipinB (Mon, 06 Jan 2020 21:39:52 GMT):
@here Welcome back to the regular calls of the IDWG for 2020.Hope you have all had a well deserved break and and a relaxing New Year in spite of the various developments in the wider world. When:8th of Jan 2020- 12 noon EDT (17:00 UDT) Where: Call is on hyperledger zoom.The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Main events: The full Agenda is available here: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-01-08 Roadmap for 2020CCPA: Implications for the blockchain and hyperledger Please join us, your ideas for 2020 for the Identity WG are always welcome. As January is dedicated to Janus, the god of retrospectives and prospectives, we will start with a look back at 2019, with our eyes fully on 2020 as well.  This is an open call, where all are welcome!We finished with a bang on December 11th with a talk by Darrell O'Connell on Digital Wallets. We hope to open with interesting talks laid out for the next few months, always topical- focused on hard problems: Digital Identity & the Blockchain.Let us have some fun!

drummondreed (Tue, 07 Jan 2020 19:38:55 GMT):
Vipin, great note. Unfortunately I will not be able to attend tomorrow's call as I'm giving an all-day customer workshop. But I hope to make the next call.

VipinB (Wed, 08 Jan 2020 16:37:48 GMT):
@here When:@ 12 noon EDT (17:00 UDT)- In about 20 minutes Where: Call is on hyperledger zoom.The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Main events: The full Agenda is available here: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-01-08

Silona (Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:50:07 GMT):
Help Us Help you! Attend the Developer Relationship Meeting with Myself and our Marketing Dept. tomorrow at 9:00am Pacific Time. For the agenda and Dial in info https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/Marketing/2020-01-15+Meeting+notes

Silona (Tue, 14 Jan 2020 17:05:01 GMT):
Calling all Projects, SIG, and WG!!! We will have a Video recording Studio setup at HGF (Hyperledger Global Forum). We are asking that all projects and groups help us create a 5 minute video about your group so that we can promote it afterward. Sign up Here! https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/HGF/Video+Recording+Schedule

dbluhm (Thu, 16 Jan 2020 16:04:34 GMT):
Identity WG Implementer's call is starting now; join us on zoom at https://zoom.us/j/244779296

VipinB (Sun, 19 Jan 2020 18:05:10 GMT):
@here Announcing a call of the ID WG When: Wednesday Jan 22, 2020 12 noon EST (1700 UTC) Where: Call is on hyperledger zoom. The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Main events: The full Agenda is available here: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-01-22 Select Items from the Agenda: Privacy laws and Identity Blockchain implications. Privacy laws across the world with aside on state laws of US- Vipin Bharathan Kalyan Kulkarni & Ajay Jadhav Privacy laws in India: new ruling. PDP A talk by Kim Cameron .- Feb 5th Future talks: Guardianship - a Sovrin whitepaper Identity for IOT- Blockchain implications Bhawana Singh, JNU Your ideas for 2020 for the Identity WG are always welcome. This is an open call, where all are welcome! We continue interesting talks laid out for the next few months, always topical- focused on hard problems in Digital Identity & the Blockchain with a focus on Hyperledger. Let us have some fun!

xragrawal (Wed, 22 Jan 2020 03:28:23 GMT):
@VipinB - For 22nd Jan call, I was planning to present India privacy law but due to some reason I will not be able to attain today's session. Apologies for sorry notice. Could you pls allocate next available slot?

VipinB (Wed, 22 Jan 2020 13:45:48 GMT):
Allright @xragrawal we will sketch out the privacy laws across various countries, touching upon India as well. The next presentation will have to wait for later in Feb or March.

VipinB (Wed, 22 Jan 2020 16:12:24 GMT):
@here Announcing a call of the ID WG When: Wednesday Jan 22, 2020 12 noon EST (1700 UTC) in 49 minutes Where: Call is on hyperledger zoom. The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Main events: The full Agenda is available here: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-01-22 Select Items from the Agenda: Privacy laws and Identity Blockchain implications. Privacy laws across the world with aside on state laws of US- Vipin Bharathan A talk by Kim Cameron .- Feb 5th Future talks: Guardianship - a Sovrin whitepaper Identity for IOT- Blockchain implications Bhawana Singh, JNU Your ideas for 2020 for the Identity WG are always welcome. This is an open call, where all are welcome! We continue interesting talks laid out for the next few months, always topical- focused on hard problems in Digital Identity & the Blockchain with a focus on Hyperledger. Let us have some fun!

esplinr (Thu, 23 Jan 2020 18:06:55 GMT):
Who will be attending the Hyperledger Global Forum?

esplinr (Thu, 23 Jan 2020 18:07:50 GMT):
I grabbed us a premium 10 minute slot at the start of the conference to present about the Identity Working Group. If you want to present, let me know and I'll substitute your name for mine.

esplinr (Thu, 23 Jan 2020 18:07:58 GMT):
https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/HGF/Special+Interest+Group+Kiosk

kulkarnikk (Fri, 24 Jan 2020 20:10:05 GMT):
Hey Richard, I am attending the Global Forum, but I would rather prefer to hear from you, though will be there at the kiosk

VipinB (Fri, 24 Jan 2020 21:11:18 GMT):
@esplinr It will be great if you can present. I will be there as well and maybe we can collaborate and expand the format, once on the Implementation aspect and once on the general aspect.

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esplinr (Sun, 26 Jan 2020 05:50:11 GMT):
Sounds good. They are only 10 minute slots, so we can't cover much information. We can coordinate as we get closer.

Silona (Mon, 27 Jan 2020 22:26:45 GMT):
The Linux Foundation’s CommunityBridge engineers are working on a tool to measure the health of critical open source projects and one of the key areas identified is QA Testing. They request that our communities provide honest and detailed information on testing tools and methodologies you use in your projects for us to come up with a detailed analysis, which they will share with all respondents and projects. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/9H5G2GV. It’s only 5 questions long.

esplinr (Thu, 30 Jan 2020 16:05:52 GMT):
Starting the Identity Implementers call: https://zoom.us/j/244779296 https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/Identity+WG+Implementers+Call

esplinr (Sat, 01 Feb 2020 05:52:42 GMT):
I finally got the recording posted. Sorry about the delay. https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-01-30+Identity+WG+Implementers

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VipinB (Wed, 05 Feb 2020 00:38:46 GMT):
@here Announcing a call of the ID WG Fun Fact: two days ago was a palindromic date 02022020. (in mmddyyyy and in ddmmyyyy), the last one was more than 900 years ago. When: Wednesday Feb 5, 2020 12 noon EST (1700 UTC) Where: Call is on hyperledger zoom. The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Calls are recorded: Audio and Video links always updated in notes. The full Agenda is available here: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-02-05 Main event: A talk by Kim Cameron. The author of the laws of identity will talk about the state of digital identity in 2020. Kim was "the" Identity Architect in Microsoft and has always advocated for the user. Select Items from the Agenda: -Florence Hudson requests participation in IEEE calls. Your ideas for 2020 for the Identity WG are always welcome.

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Tomomi.Yamano (Fri, 07 Feb 2020 10:52:08 GMT):
@VipinB sorry for interruption . I am new and wonder if IEEE calls particilations are requested are separate from WG calls on a regular basis.

Tomomi.Yamano (Fri, 07 Feb 2020 10:52:08 GMT):
@VipinB sorry for interruption . I am new and wonder if IEEE calls particilations are requested are separate from WG calls on a regular basis as it may be of interest to me.

VipinB (Fri, 07 Feb 2020 11:07:08 GMT):
They are separate, @Tomomi.Yamano, @florencehudson runs them

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Tomomi.Yamano (Fri, 07 Feb 2020 11:08:05 GMT):
@VipinB thank you . where can i get more info of Zoom to participate in ?

VipinB (Fri, 07 Feb 2020 11:09:34 GMT):
you need to talk to her

Tomomi.Yamano (Fri, 07 Feb 2020 11:10:19 GMT):
sure. thanks a lot.

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Silona (Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:24:39 GMT):
Howdy Contributors and Maintainers! Are you wondering about tapping into Developer marketing for your group or project? Do you have a blog post idea? An awesome announcement? Please attend our Contributor/marketing meeting! https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/Marketing/2020-02-19+Meeting+notes

Silona (Mon, 17 Feb 2020 22:18:32 GMT):
Are you wondering about tapping into Developer marketing for your group or project? Do you have a blog post idea? An awesome announcement? Please attend TOMORROW! https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/Marketing/2020-02-19+Meeting+notes

VipinB (Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:17:56 GMT):
@here As I mentioned I will kick it off, the call will happen no matter what. Call for volunteers to continue to run the call as I have a conflict. Where: Call is on hyperledger zoom. The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Time: 12 noon EST (17:00 UTC) The full Agenda is available here: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-02-19

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esplinr (Thu, 27 Feb 2020 22:06:43 GMT):
Here are Evernym's suggestions for what Identity related sessions to attend at Hyperledger Global Forum next week: https://www.evernym.com/blog/hyperledger-global-forum-2020/ We would love to meet anyone in this working group who will be there.

VipinB (Fri, 28 Feb 2020 19:14:24 GMT):
I will be there @esplinr

VipinB (Fri, 28 Feb 2020 19:14:44 GMT):
Can do a joint session on IDWG

esplinr (Fri, 28 Feb 2020 20:31:46 GMT):
I look forward to seeing you @VipinB ! I'm hosting a BoF table on Identity on Tuesday.

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VipinB (Tue, 17 Mar 2020 20:05:47 GMT):
@here, Please be aware of time change due to Daylight Savings time in the US (it becomes UTC - 4), an hour earlier for those that did not switch to DST. The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Time: 12 noon EDT (16:00 UTC) tomorrow the 18th of March https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-03-18 Events are always recorded: Audio and Video links always updated in notes. Main event: A talk by Daniel Bachenheimer (from Accenture) on KTDI (known traveler digital identity) from WEF (he will also give us a view of what went on at the WEF) and ISO TC 307 (Blockchain & Smart Contracts) (these standards are not freely available- you have to buy them). You have to attend and listen to Dan, also ask him questions. In light of the developing story on the Corona virus, a zoom call is the best way to keep in touch and be involved without compromising yourself. Thanks,

drummondreed (Wed, 18 Mar 2020 15:59:02 GMT):
Vipin, just a note that I won't be able to join today's call. Just too much COVID-19 turmoil affecting business right now.

drummondreed (Wed, 18 Mar 2020 15:59:10 GMT):
I hope you are staying safe1

drummondreed (Wed, 18 Mar 2020 15:59:14 GMT):
safe!

VipinB (Wed, 18 Mar 2020 17:26:51 GMT):
Yeah, great call with Dan Bachenheimer from Accenture!

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VipinB (Wed, 25 Mar 2020 23:50:40 GMT):
I am in the heart of the inferno in NY

VipinB (Wed, 25 Mar 2020 23:50:53 GMT):
Hope you are safe!

esplinr (Thu, 26 Mar 2020 15:06:20 GMT):
Identity Implementors call starting now: https://zoom.us/j/244779296

VipinB (Wed, 01 Apr 2020 15:40:25 GMT):
@here AT 12 noon (20 more minutes) Main event: Successful strategies for rapid tracing of exposed individuals through digital IDs From South Korea etc. to Singapore- rapidly changing strategies to balance privacy and effectiveness. Increasing privacy to a blockchain based solution. Including the latest German proposal. Even though the date is April 1st, it is no joke! Please be aware of time change due to Daylight Savings time in the US (it becomes UTC - 4), an hour earlier for those that did not switch to DST. The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Time: 12 noon EDT (16:00 UTC) https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-04-01 Events are always recorded: Audio and Video links always updated in notes. Thanks, Vipin

drummondreed (Wed, 01 Apr 2020 16:02:58 GMT):
Vipin, I'm coming for the first half-hour but will be a little late.

bbehlendorf (Wed, 01 Apr 2020 16:08:10 GMT):
https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/HCSIG/COVID19

bbehlendorf (Wed, 01 Apr 2020 16:09:11 GMT):
Again as stated on the call - this is still a draft, very open to co-curation with others, please don't promote yet, but hopefully by end of week we'll have it more fleshed out. I specifically want ideas and contact related to digital ID

VipinB (Wed, 01 Apr 2020 20:40:25 GMT):
@here bunch of links and articles Jim Mason good article on background for R model etc --- https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56 stmouy : The Science article may be of interest in that it calls for an app-based intervention. https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/03/30/science.abb6936 Salman Baset: https://covidnearyou.org Drummond Reed : https://www.evernym.com/covid19/ - I just added this to the spreadsheet Taylor Kendal : http://safepaths.mit.edu/ Drummond: https://www.evernym.com/covid19-creds/

VipinB (Wed, 01 Apr 2020 20:40:40 GMT):
These were harvested from chat

VipinB (Thu, 02 Apr 2020 12:00:36 GMT):
Another pan european initiative that has come up https://404a7c52-a26b-421d-a6c6-96c63f2a159a.filesusr.com/ugd/159fc3_878909ad0691448695346b128c6c9302.pdf

VipinB (Thu, 02 Apr 2020 12:00:36 GMT):
@here Another pan european initiative that has come up https://404a7c52-a26b-421d-a6c6-96c63f2a159a.filesusr.com/ugd/159fc3_878909ad0691448695346b128c6c9302.pdf

VipinB (Thu, 02 Apr 2020 12:34:17 GMT):
They are encouraging participation from all countries.

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BrajeshA (Wed, 08 Apr 2020 20:11:08 GMT):
@drummondreed we are startup based working on Blockchain based provider directory and credentialing solution for Healthcare. we are offering our solution for COVID-19 HC volunteer management and credentialing. I wanted connect and see how can we get involved with COVID-19 Credentials Initiative. I talked about our solution in HC-SIG meeting and last week and Rich suggested to connect with you.

BrajeshA (Wed, 08 Apr 2020 20:11:08 GMT):
@drummondreed we are startup based working on Blockchain based provider directory and credentialing solution for Healthcare. we are offering our solution for COVID-19 HC volunteer management and credentialing. I wanted connect and see how can we get involved with COVID-19 Credentials Initiative. I talked about our solution in HC-SIG meeting and last week and Rich(@richbl), Chair HC-SIG suggested to connect with you.

BrajeshA (Wed, 08 Apr 2020 20:11:08 GMT):
@drummondreed we are startup based working on Blockchain based provider directory and credentialing solution for Healthcare. we are offering our solution for COVID-19 HC volunteer management and credentialing. I wanted connect and see how can we get involved with COVID-19 Credentials Initiative. I talked about our solution in HC-SIG meeting and last week and Rich( @richbl ), Chair HC-SIG suggested to connect with you.

drummondreed (Wed, 15 Apr 2020 14:50:27 GMT):
Brajesh, I apologize for being so slow—the COVID-19 Credential Initiative has resulted in a wave of new work that has me behind on many messaging channels. The persons to contact to connect with the CCI are Jamie Smith (jamie.smith@evernym.com) and Alex Andrade-Walz (alex.walz@evernym.com).

drummondreed (Wed, 15 Apr 2020 14:50:43 GMT):
Drop them an email and cc me (drummond.reed@evernym.com) and we'll make sure you get plugged in.

drummondreed (Wed, 15 Apr 2020 14:51:17 GMT):
I'll be on today's HL Identity WG call to talk more about CCI.

szewong (Wed, 15 Apr 2020 16:31:23 GMT):
Thanks @drummondreed. Just did. Please let me know what groups or calls to join.

VipinB (Wed, 15 Apr 2020 17:23:50 GMT):
@here Thanks @drummondreed @KellyCooper and others for a great discussion. We had Drummond present on Covid Credentialing Initiative (CCI) and my presentation on contact tracing apps and their rapid evolution. As noted it is not evident that DLT and Identity have any links to Contact Tracing, except for healthcare credentials. Remaining anonymous and contributing in a decentralized way has some relation to Identity. As we start seeing the rapid evolution of these apps, we need to see whether there will be touchpoints introduced to DLT and credentials.

VipinB (Wed, 15 Apr 2020 17:26:29 GMT):
As noted we will be back to our regularly scheduled programming as well as more focus on CCI and deployment as we move forward into loosening the restrictions on total lockdown and awaiting to soften the second wave that is sure to come.

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drummondreed (Tue, 28 Apr 2020 05:07:49 GMT):
@VipinB You asked me about doing a presentation on the launch of the Trust over IP Foundation at the next Identity WG meeting this coming Wednesday. However I didn't realize that was during IIW (the all-virtual IIW). So I can't do it this week. Can we aim for the next one after that?

VipinB (Tue, 28 Apr 2020 12:54:19 GMT):
Sure @drummondreed we have to do it at the next one

VipinB (Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:07:26 GMT):
@here Call in an hour, as mentioned in email The main event will be a discussion on eIDAS legal framework. Which will be run as follows. Luca Boldrin on the background of this publication (the legal framework for eIDAS) followed by Stephane Mouy outlining main points, then Roland Faure gives one particular vision of this subject based on a use case related to IAM for Dangerous goods transportation. All of this brings us to EBSI, which we will present in the future. EBSI is the public blockchain framework for pan-European collaboration in the government sector. There has to be interaction between EBSI and eIDAS. We may also explore integration between startup architecture and EBSI. All in all, promises to be an exciting call. This will tee us up for future discussions on Identity as seen by the state vs across regions and internationally and how that helps stitch together the blockchain infrastructures, in terms of trust, KYC etc.. When: April 29, 12 noon EDT 16:00 UTC Where: The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community What: Agenda : https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-04-29

VipinB (Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:06:29 GMT):
@here great call yesterday with interesting presentations. Agenda : https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-04-29 has the latest recordings.

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VipinB (Wed, 13 May 2020 15:24:09 GMT):
@here Call in half an hour The main event will be a discussion on TrustOverIP network and its induction into the Linux Foundation. Which will be run as follows. Roland Faure continues on EBSI based on a use case related to IAM for Dangerous goods transportation. After which we have the main event: The main event: TOIP launch- Drummond Reed (Executive Director TOIP) The basic briefing deck about new project is this Google Slides deck. The Hyperledger Aries RFC 0289 has more background material. Promises to be an exciting call. When: May 13, 12 noon EDT 16:00 UTC Where: The zoom channel is https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community What: Agenda : https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-05-13 Please attend and please participate. A reminder that all calls are recorded and everyone is welcome.

VipinB (Wed, 13 May 2020 17:05:34 GMT):
@here Great call. Thanks to Drummond Reed and Roland from Aerosuerte. One for a view of the stack and another for talking about a specific trust ecosystem in the context of the EU.

VipinB (Tue, 26 May 2020 13:34:15 GMT):
@here The main event: Yet to be decided. Suggestions: TOIP working groups, stimulate community engagement Cactus Identity for interoperability- cross chain identity Presidio Principles foundational values for a decentralized future, its relationship to GDPR Recap of Identity in Consensus Recap of IIW and main points discussed there We have had presentations on FATF and NIST recommendations, which will fit the existing TOIP work. Please volunteer to talk on these subjects, or suggest new ones. See Agenda here: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-05-27

VipinB (Tue, 26 May 2020 15:24:18 GMT):
@here there is a possibility that the Wednesday (May 27) call will not happen. Will confirm one way or the other soon.

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knagware9 (Wed, 27 May 2020 04:57:19 GMT):
@VipinB All topics are fantastic , I will suggest these there 1. TOIP working groups, stimulate community engagement 2. Cactus Identity for interoperability- cross chain identity 3. Presidio Principles foundational values for a decentralized future, its relationship to GDPR

VipinB (Wed, 27 May 2020 05:28:09 GMT):
@here tomorrow's meeting has been canceled, next meeting on June 10th

VipinB (Mon, 08 Jun 2020 14:20:12 GMT):
@here Call at 12 noon EDT (UTC - 4) on June 10. On zoom channel https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Hope everyone is staying safe and healthy. *The main event: Peter Somogyvari talks about the Identity solution in Cactus Other suggestions and work to be done TOIP working groups, stimulate community engagement Presidio Principles foundational values for a decentralized future, its relationship to GDPR Recap of Identity in Consensus Recap of IIW and main points discussed there We have had presentations on FATF and NIST recommendations, which will fit the existing TOIP work. Next time (June 24) we will have a presentation on LEI and Identity, where we go into LEI as a trust anchor for organizations that implement role based access control. This will be given by Karla McKenna and possibly Christoph Schneider. We will talk about their solution migrating to later versions of Aries etc. Please volunteer to talk on these subjects, or suggest new ones. See Agenda here: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-06-10

peter_somogyvari (Mon, 08 Jun 2020 18:50:45 GMT):
> The main event: Peter Somogyvari talks about the Identity solution in Cactus @VipinB Very optimistic to call it the main event, thank you :-D My usual disclaimer to manage expectations: nothing I'll say/show is a finalized design or any sort of commitment that it once will be (fellow Cactus maintainers need to reach consensus first but we haven't even started discussing it yet in detail). With that said, I'll be happy to talk about the things I've been working on recently. If anybody would like to check out the code or the relevant section of the whitepaper here are the links: Branch: https://github.com/petermetz/blockchain-integration-framework/tree/feature/open-id-connect-web-service-plugin Whitepaper: https://github.com/hyperledger/cactus/blob/master/whitepaper/whitepaper.md#27-end-user-wallet-authenticationauthorization

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VipinB (Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:22:35 GMT):
@peter_somogyvari thanks for the presentation. It brought a completely different perspective into our call today. Please share the slides if you can. I will drop the whitepaper reference into the meeting link

peter_somogyvari (Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:26:43 GMT):
My pleasure Vipin, thanks for having me! Just finished adding the disclaimer to the slides, here's the link: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1wCKEbrKZpg2Wf0EMaUBP6dTEth_khGC3saE0dNWG2wU

VipinB (Fri, 12 Jun 2020 17:32:05 GMT):
@here great call this past Wednesday. All recordings and links to presentation, Cactus white paper and github repository are here. https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-06-10 Thanks to @peter_somogyvari

peter_somogyvari (Fri, 12 Jun 2020 17:34:13 GMT):
My pleasure @VipinB , thanks for having me

VipinB (Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:07:31 GMT):
@here We had a great call with the chain of trust extending from the LEI into the organizations wallet. From GLEIF, Karla McKenna and Christoph Schneider, recordings and slides will be shared on the minutes.

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drummondreed (Thu, 25 Jun 2020 19:42:51 GMT):
thanks Vipin. Sorry i missed it.

drummondreed (Thu, 25 Jun 2020 19:43:17 GMT):
I'm a big believer that a GLEIF governance framework can make a big impact in organizational identity.

VipinB (Mon, 29 Jun 2020 13:52:28 GMT):
Indeed drummond! We need bridges into the enterprise.

VipinB (Mon, 29 Jun 2020 13:54:36 GMT):
@here We had a great presentation on June 24 on the subject of GLIEF rooted org wallets. The recordings and minutes are available at https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-06-24 Please correct or expand on the minutes. My apologies for my garbled zoom audio, although I could hear everyone just fine. Thanks again and we will continue to have great presentations on the IDWG. Minutes Christoph Schneider & Karla McKenna from GLEIF presented their project which went all the way from LEI registrars to an organization wallet that holds individual roles. In turn, to be presented in a limited way in GLEIF's public data. Some of the questions the balance between privacy of the individuals in the corporations to the publishing of their names in a public data source like the GLEIF the distance between the organizational wallets and the personal wallets to assert a claim on either salary or a position. the use of these org wallets as generic identification documents Most of these questions were related to the scope and function of the org wallets vs VCs held by personal wallets. Next steps: What is the roadmap for this PoC? Will it progress to a later version of Aries? What are the future plans for implementation?

VipinB (Mon, 29 Jun 2020 20:45:15 GMT):
@here next call of IDWG on July 8th will feature Orie Steele from Transmute tech on his proposal for a universal wallet.

VipinB (Mon, 29 Jun 2020 20:48:54 GMT):
@here presentation by Karla McKenna and Christoph Schneider from the GLEIF now available on the meeting minutes page.

VipinB (Mon, 29 Jun 2020 20:49:01 GMT):
https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-06-24

VipinB (Mon, 06 Jul 2020 18:00:49 GMT):
@here On Wednesday the 8th at 12 noon EDT (16:00 UTC) On zoom channel https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Please check out our Agenda https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-07-08 The main event: Orie Steele from Transmute talks about his proposal for a universal wallet. Another exciting session brought to you by the Identity working group. From Orie's original email about the proposal: Repo: https://github.com/transmute-industries/universal-wallet Spec: https://transmute-industries.github.io/universal-wallet/ The proposed specification will define a data model and abstract interfaces for digital wallets that store currency, credentials, key material or references to key material, meta data, and cards... The goal being to help unify DIDs, VCs, and cryptocurrency wallet data models, by defining missing vocabulary or defining relationships between existing vocabulary, reusing existing specifications as much as possible without modification.... Including DIDs, DID Key, VCs, VC HTTP APIs, WebKMS, VP Request Spec, Presentation Exchange, etc... Attend, ask questions and get answers from Orie.

VipinB (Wed, 08 Jul 2020 15:18:54 GMT):
@here Meeting starts in 42 minutes at 12 noon EDT

VipinB (Wed, 08 Jul 2020 17:08:00 GMT):
@here excellent talk by Orie Steele CTO of Transmute.

VipinB (Wed, 08 Jul 2020 17:22:33 GMT):
@here Universal Wallet 2020 by Orie Steele with a lively Q&A session.

VipinB (Wed, 08 Jul 2020 17:22:33 GMT):
@here Universal Wallet 2020 by Orie Steele with a lively Q&A session. Latest recording and minutes available in https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-07-08

VipinB (Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:32:54 GMT):
@here Let us collaborate on next week's agenda.

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esplinr (Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:12:56 GMT):
@mccown I want to introduce you to @m00sey and @pfeairheller. They are the creators of this open source project based on Aries and Indy: https://github.com/scoir/canis It would make a great demo in the Identity Implementers call.

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VipinB (Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:05:45 GMT):
@here I am glad to say that the call will happen as scheduled. In two hours. @AmolDeshpande with Kalyan Kulkarni from Ayanworks will present their Identity solution. There will be a demo. Agenda https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-07-22 Meeting is on the zoom channel. https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community Please participate.

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VipinB (Mon, 31 Aug 2020 19:01:57 GMT):
@here announcing the cancellation of this week's call on Sept 2nd. Regularly scheduled programming resumes on Sept 16.

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VipinB (Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:01:19 GMT):
@here Next call of IDWG Where: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community When: Sept 16, 12:00 noon EDT (16:00 UTC) Details: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-09-16 Main event is: Deepak Maram presents CanDID: a platform for practical, user-friendly realization of decentralized identity, the idea of empowering end users with management of their own credentials. While decentralized identity promises to give users greater control over their private data, it burdens users with management of private keys, creating a significant risk of key loss. Existing and proposed approaches also presume the spontaneous availability of a credential-issuance ecosystem, creating a bootstrapping problem. They also omit essential functionality, like resistance to Sybil attacks and the ability to detect misbehaving or sanctioned users while preserving user privacy. CanDID addresses these challenges by issuing credentials in a user-friendly way that draws securely and privately on data from existing, unmodified web service providers. Such legacy compatibility similarly enables CanDID users to leverage their existing online accounts for recovery of lost keys. Using a decentralized committee of nodes, CanDID provides strong confidentiality for user's keys, real-world identities, and data, yet prevents users from spawning multiple identities and allows identification (and blacklisting) of sanctioned users. We present the CanDID architecture and its technical innovations and report on experiments demonstrating its practical performance. Deepak is a PhD student at Cornell University and he is the principal author of this paper: https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/934 which describes CanDID in detail. Please join the call and collaborate- ask questions, provide answers etc.

VipinB (Sat, 26 Sep 2020 20:39:40 GMT):
@here Please note that the zoom link is different because of the use of a passcode; newly required for zoom. Zoom Channel = https://zoom.us/j/4034983298?pwd=STZQd0xMZU9xRVVOVnpQM3JNQ2dqZz09 The call is at 12 noon EDT (16:00 UTC) on Wednesday the 30th of September. Minutes and Agenda at: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-09-30 The main event: a presentation on GADI (Global Architecture for Digital Identity) by Ramesh Kesanupalli, the CEO of Digital Trust Networks. Please attend, collaborate, question, contribute! We expect some members who are into pure SSI to show up and engage... The mission of GADI is to establish a new trustable identity framework by providing a unique digital address to everyone. The initial implementation uses Indy et. al. We will have an extensive demo of GADI on a later call. After the presentation we may have some questions: How can GADI be used in Hyperledger Blockchain based applications? Provenance, Digital Finance, Healthcare, Digital Government? What about correlation risk in the provision of a universal identity? How useful is it for non-persons or Enterprises? What about IOT devices? Are there links to LEI? Such identifiers are already part of many national infrastructures: SSN in the US, Aadhaar in India and so on. How will GADI interact with them?

VipinB (Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:28:48 GMT):
@here Minutes and Agenda at: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-09-30

VipinB (Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:28:48 GMT):
@here Minutes and Agenda at: Recordings and chat text also available https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-09-30

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ashutosh_kumar (Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:17:54 GMT):
Do we have any meeting today ?

VipinB (Wed, 07 Oct 2020 23:56:05 GMT):
Next week 12 noon Wednesday

ashutosh_kumar (Thu, 08 Oct 2020 17:26:49 GMT):
Thanks Vipin.

VipinB (Tue, 13 Oct 2020 15:28:44 GMT):
@here The Hyperledger Identity Working Group announces a presentation on its bi-weekly zoom call: MyData Operators: a Nordic perspective. By Lal Chandran, CTO, iGrant.io & Jan Lindquist Data Privacy Expert Where : https://zoom.us/j/4034983298?pwd=STZQd0xMZU9xRVVOVnpQM3JNQ2dqZz09 When: *Oct 14, 12:00 noon EDT (16:00 UTC)* Details:https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-10-14 MyData operators are actors that provide infrastructure for human-centric personal data management and governance. There were 16 organisations awarded the inaugural status of a MyData operator, including iGrant.io. The MyData Operator 2020 Award recognises operators of human-centric infrastructure for personal data management and sharing. It acknowledges organisations that place the individual at the centre of personal data about them, ensuring that they are the prime beneficiary of the use of this data and providing tools to help them manage personal data. Please participate, question, comment and engage! Thanks, Vipin

VipinB (Thu, 15 Oct 2020 17:38:48 GMT):
@here Great call, all recordings available at https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-10-14 And we continue our conversations on the mailing list.

daidoji (Thu, 15 Oct 2020 19:33:02 GMT):
hi, I'm not really sure where to ask this question but I think this room is the most appropriate as far as I'm aware. Are there any generalized taxonomies or papers on the types of workflows that have so far occurred with identities and VCs?

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drummondreed (Wed, 28 Oct 2020 01:46:08 GMT):
Vipin, I have a conflict for the call tomorrow (assuming there is one).

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VipinB (Mon, 09 Nov 2020 15:58:26 GMT):
@here This week's Identity Working Group call is cancelled.

VipinB (Mon, 09 Nov 2020 15:58:59 GMT):
@here the call was set for Wednesday the 11th.

VipinB (Thu, 26 Nov 2020 14:04:28 GMT):
Great call yesterday....

VipinB (Thu, 26 Nov 2020 20:45:09 GMT):
@here We had a great call with 65 people in attendance. Drummond Reed gave an excellent presentation on "The State of SSI". The presentation slides as well as the full video recording is available at: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2020-11-25 Thanks to Drummond and all those who attended. As part of the year end retrospective, it would be great to hear feedback from the members. A retrospective is a guide to future activities. To encourage more activities that people found useful, to abandon blind alleys, to embark on new projects.

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yuvaraj-thanikachalam (Wed, 09 Dec 2020 07:54:06 GMT):
Hi, We are trying to create DID mobile wallet cloud agent using Aries-framework-Go mediator which can establish a connection to an existing python based indy agent using genesis file json as well as communication using Rest APIs; Can this be setup on AWS cloud? Please advise if someone had done this before.

VipinB (Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:12:40 GMT):
@yuvaraj-thanikachalam better ask in #aries channel.

VipinB (Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:14:11 GMT):
@here Just reminding everyone that both IDWG calls this month have been cancelled including the one usually scheduled 40 minutes from now. The next call is on January 6th.

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yuvaraj-thanikachalam (Thu, 10 Dec 2020 12:25:44 GMT):
Vipin, thanks

VipinB (Fri, 01 Jan 2021 18:19:56 GMT):
@here First call of 2021 on Jan 6 at 9 am EST (not the usual 12 noon)... The first call of the Identity Working Group in 2021 is on January 6th. A date that is significant for other reasons. We have a presentation from Debajani Mohanty, an author of many books including "Blockchain for Self Sovereign Digital Identity". The time is 9 am (instead of 12 noon) EST which is 14:00 UTC. She is going to speak on SSI and biometrics. Please participate and contribute. Where:https://zoom.us/j/4034983298?pwd=STZQd0xMZU9xRVVOVnpQM3JNQ2dqZz09 When: Jan 6th, 09:00 am EST (14:00 UTC) 19:30 IST Details: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2021-01-06

VipinB (Fri, 01 Jan 2021 18:20:55 GMT):

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VipinB (Sat, 09 Jan 2021 22:07:23 GMT):
@here Main Event on the 20th of Jan 2021:

VipinB (Sat, 09 Jan 2021 22:07:23 GMT):
@here Main Event on the 20th of Jan 2021: A presentation by Dr. Samuel M. Smith on KERI Where:https://zoom.us/j/4034983298?pwd=STZQd0xMZU9xRVVOVnpQM3JNQ2dqZz09 When: Jan 20th, 12:00 pm EST (17:00 UTC) Details: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2021-01-20

VipinB (Sat, 09 Jan 2021 22:11:38 GMT):

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VipinB (Sat, 09 Jan 2021 22:11:38 GMT):
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VipinB (Wed, 20 Jan 2021 15:44:15 GMT):
@here Call in an hour and fifteen minutes! :point_up_2:

VipinB (Mon, 01 Mar 2021 23:37:08 GMT):
Next Call:

VipinB (Mon, 01 Mar 2021 23:39:11 GMT):
Where: https://zoom.us/j/4034983298?pwd=STZQd0xMZU9xRVVOVnpQM3JNQ2dqZz09 When: Mar 03, 12:00 noon EST (17:00 UTC) Details: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2021-03-03 (this page) Drummond Reed at the IDWG. One of the stalwarts of the IDWG, ever since we launched Indy/Aries and other SSI based solutions through our working group. Drummond addresses the whole swatch of SSI, Drummond Reed is the super connector of the SSI industry, and a super-maven of the open-source initiatives when he is not busy saving the world through the COVID Credentials Initiative. See him to get a load of his new book when he presents at Hyperledger Identity Working Group this coming Wednesday at noon. Drummond has over 45 contributing authors in this new book. When: Mar 03, 12:00 noon EST (17:00 UTC) Hope to see you on Zoom this Wednesday at noon EST.

VipinB (Mon, 01 Mar 2021 23:39:11 GMT):
@here Where: https://zoom.us/j/4034983298?pwd=STZQd0xMZU9xRVVOVnpQM3JNQ2dqZz09 When: Mar 03, 12:00 noon EST (17:00 UTC) Details: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2021-03-03 (this page) Drummond Reed at the IDWG. One of the stalwarts of the IDWG, ever since we launched Indy/Aries and other SSI based solutions through our working group. Drummond addresses the whole swatch of SSI, Drummond Reed is the super connector of the SSI industry, and a super-maven of the open-source initiatives when he is not busy saving the world through the COVID Credentials Initiative. See him to get a load of his new book when he presents at Hyperledger Identity Working Group this coming Wednesday at noon. Drummond has over 45 contributing authors in this new book. When: Mar 03, 12:00 noon EST (17:00 UTC) Hope to see you on Zoom this Wednesday at noon EST.

VipinB (Mon, 01 Mar 2021 23:39:59 GMT):

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VipinB (Mon, 29 Mar 2021 15:15:53 GMT):
@here Where:https://zoom.us/j/4034983298?pwd=STZQd0xMZU9xRVVOVnpQM3JNQ2dqZz09 When: Mar 31, 12:00 noon EST (17:00 UTC) Details: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2021-31-03 (this page)

VipinB (Mon, 29 Mar 2021 15:16:08 GMT):
Main Event Darrell O'Donnell presents the latest advances in Digital Wallets. Darrell is the thought leader everyone turns to for perspectives on Digital Wallets. Darrell wrote a white paper on Digital Wallets and now chapters on Digital Wallets in the SSI book edited by Drummond et. al. He will focus on how thought has advanced on digital wallets since his presentation to the group in December 2019. This is what happens in the IDWG, a tracking of iterative advances.

VipinB (Mon, 29 Mar 2021 15:16:30 GMT):
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VipinB (Mon, 29 Mar 2021 15:18:05 GMT):

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SeanBohan (Wed, 31 Mar 2021 16:50:56 GMT):
great session Vipin! Thanks Darrell

VipinB (Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:54:05 GMT):
@here great session today as well.

VipinB (Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:10:56 GMT):
@here We had a great call today. Thanks to Coty de Monteverde, Paula Pascual, & Carlos Pastor all participate in Alastria and are employees of Santander and in Carlos' case of Inetum. They also covered ESSI and the European blockchain infrastructure project. The video recording is available on the wiki page. https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/IWG/2021-04-14 All questions and answers asked on chat and otherwise are on the wiki page. Let us continue to collaborate!

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VipinB (Wed, 07 Jul 2021 13:58:13 GMT):
@here our meeting today is cancelled... Next meeting on the 21 of July

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@here our meeting for today is cancelled

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SeanBohan (Thu, 13 Jan 2022 15:06:00 GMT):
cross-posting with #indy #aries FinCEN, FDIC to Hold 'Tech Sprint' for Digital Identity Tools The proliferation of scams, information leaks and synthetic identity fraud is presenting a major challenge to the online financial services industry, federal regulators said. https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/01/12/fincen-fdic-to-hold-tech-sprint-for-digital-identity-tools/

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@here :point_up_2:

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